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Science as we know has contradicted a lot of what is stated in the bible to be true, and proven it to be false. So once something has been proven to be unreliable as a source, how can it continue to be believed in, especially with nothing to back it up in the first place? Science isn't some anti religious sect, it is about finding truth, the truth in everything, it's not 1 organisation, it is hundreds of thousands if not millions of people, working with and against each other, to find the absolute truth of everything. It is not there yet, we don't, and may not ever be able to know everything about everything, but we've done amazingly well to find out what we have so far. We do know for example that the world wasn't made in 7 days, is a lot older than the bible states, which doesn't even mention the dinosaurs, because the people who wrote the bible had no way of knowing about them. I want to ask the Faith people, how can you stay so loyally on your side, when truth and fact have proven your stance wrong in so many ways? I'm not trolling, I really want to understand. And I am not saying science says there can't be a God, it hasn't proven either way, but it has proven it didn't happen like the holy books say, and I do mean proven, and what we know now to be Indisputable, makes religious texts look like something a child dreamt up. |
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@recurv11 | 25 April 14 |
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get ready to be bombarded with quotes from their holy books... thats about as good as u'll get...
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@tinydude | 25 April 14 |
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In fact to put it into perspective, not only were we not 'created' in the same week as Earth, but if you think of it on a clock, if the Earth is 24 hours old, modern humans have only been around since 11:59:59pm;1 second. We have been around for far less time than the dinosaurs existed here, so why don't they get a mention in the bible? Because the first proof we found of dinosaurs, their bones, were only found in the 1800's, long after the holy books were first written. |
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@valatine | 25 April 14 |
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yeah its perfect for propping up other books on the shelve
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@mr.krabs | 25 April 14 |
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When u are super accurate with your points, it is much harder to get a reply. Good job tinydude. You aint so tiny in my book. *fist bump*
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@urvoice1 | 25 April 14 |
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@ ben20 - 25.04.14 - 02:01pm Quran is Perfect ! Obviously it isn't. |
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@iilmadme | 25 April 14 |
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many of us dont believe the 7 days is literal..and dinosaurs are animals.they were around before man according to the bible and science.. Those are my reasons.i dont want to argue
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@nolisto1 | 25 April 14 |
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If I may offer a humble comment. First read about the history of science, I'm not entirely sure you fully comprehend the word. Then a discussion can take place.
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@bozzalad | 25 April 14 |
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@ tinydude - 25.04.14 - 01:44pm Science as we know has contradicted a lot of what is stated in the bible to be true, and proven it to be false. So once something has been proven to be unreliable as a source, how can it continue to be believed in, especially with nothing to back it up in the first place? Science isn't some anti religious sect, it is about finding truth, the truth in everything, it's not 1 organisation, it is hundreds of thousands if not millions of people, working with and against each other, to find the absolute truth of everything. It is not there yet, we don't, and may not ever be able to know everything about everything, but we've done amazingly well to find out what we have so far. We do know for example that the world wasn't made in 7 days, is a lot older than the bible states, which doesn't even mention the dinosaurs, because the people who wrote the bible had no way of knowing about them. I want to ask the Faith people, how can you stay so loyally on your side, when truth and fact have proven your stance wrong in so many ways? I'm not trolling, I really want to understand. And I am not saying science says there can't be a God, it hasn't proven either way, but it has proven it didn't happen like the holy books say, and I do mean proven, and what we know now to be Indisputable, makes religious texts look like something a child dreamt up. I don't see any of it matters as long as we are all free to choose, which many are not. |
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@airwalkr | 25 April 14 |
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Job chapter 40 and 41...
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@airwalkr | 25 April 14 |
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Fully describing two colossal animals.. interesting how many descriptive stories there were about colossal beasts of great magnitude before the 1800's.. but the arrogance of man says I've discover this give me the credit. Those are just tribal tales..
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@alvar89 | 25 April 14 |
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The word dinosaur was invented in the 19th century before there were other names for them. Leviathan, behemoth, and mostly they were called dragons. Ezekiel 29:3 ...speak, and say, Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I am against you, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lies in the midst of his streams, that says, 'My Nile is my own; I made it for myself.' Isaiah 27:1 - In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that [is] in the sea. Job 40:15 Look at Behemoth, which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox. 16 What strength it has in its loins, what power in the muscles of its belly! 17 Its tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of its thighs are close-knit. 18 Its bones are tubes of bronze, its limbs like rods of iron. |
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@kimjongl | 25 April 14 |
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@ airwalkr - 25.04.14 - 07:23pm Fully describing two colossal animals.. interesting how many descriptive stories there were about colossal beasts of great magnitude before the 1800's.. but the arrogance of man says I've discover this give me the credit. Those are just tribal tales.. Lets say fossils were discovered before the 1800s. However are you saying living dinosaurs walked with man? |
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@manszar | 26 April 14 |
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@ alvar89 - 25.04.14 - 09:34pm The word dinosaur was invented in the 19th century before there were other names for them. Leviathan, behemoth, and mostly they were called dragons. Ezekiel 29:3 ...speak, and say, Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I am against you, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lies in the midst of his streams, that says, 'My Nile is my own; I made it for myself.' Isaiah 27:1 - In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that [is] in the sea. Job 40:15 Look at Behemoth, which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox. 16 What strength it has in its loins, what power in the muscles of its belly! 17 Its tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of its thighs are close-knit. 18 Its bones are tubes of bronze, its limbs like rods of iron. pure Christian deception. you have one Christian claiming the seven days is not literal. yet in the bible it is written And there was evening, and there was morning. which is literally showing that it is a day. and another saying Ezekiel 29:3 is talking about a dragon. when clearly it is not. 
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@alvar89 | 26 April 14 |
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Psalms 74:13 You divided the sea by Your strength; You broke the heads of the sea monsters in the waters. Isaiah 27:1 In that day the LORD will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, With His fierce and great and mighty sword, Even Leviathan the twisted serpent; And He will kill the dragon who lives in the sea. |
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@manszar | 26 April 14 |
 
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@alvar89 | 26 April 14 |
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Job 41:12 I will not fail to speak of Leviathans limbs, its strength and its graceful form. 13 Who can strip off its outer coat? Who can penetrate its double coat of armor[b]? 14 Who dares open the doors of its mouth, ringed about with fearsome teeth? 15 Its back has[c] rows of shields tightly sealed together; 16 each is so close to the next that no air can pass between. 17 They are joined fast to one another; they cling together and cannot be parted. 18 Its snorting throws out flashes of light; its eyes are like the rays of dawn. 19 Flames stream from its mouth; sparks of fire shoot out. 20 Smoke pours from its nostrils as from a boiling pot over burning reeds. 21 Its breath sets coals ablaze, and flames dart from its mouth. 22 Strength resides in its neck; dismay goes before it. 23 The folds of its flesh are tightly joined; they are firm and immovable. 24 Its chest is hard as rock, hard as a lower millstone. |
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@alvar89 | 26 April 14 |
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Does not sound like a whale to me 
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@alvar89 | 26 April 14 |
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@ kimjongl - 25.04.14 - 11:34pm Lets say fossils were discovered before the 1800s. However are you saying living dinosaurs walked with man? http://www.bible.ca/tracks/taylor-trail.htm  |
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@alvar89 | 26 April 14 |
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@dgsn | 26 April 14 |
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@ alvar89 - 26.04.14 - 09:37am Job 41:12 I will not fail to speak of Leviathans limbs, its strength and its graceful form. 13 Who can strip off its outer coat? Who can penetrate its double coat of armor[b]? 14 Who dares open the doors of its mouth, ringed about with fearsome teeth? 15 Its back has[c] rows of shields tightly sealed together; 16 each is so close to the next that no air can pass between. 17 They are joined fast to one another; they cling together and cannot be parted. 18 Its snorting throws out flashes of light; its eyes are like the rays of dawn. 19 Flames stream from its mouth; sparks of fire shoot out. 20 Smoke pours from its nostrils as from a boiling pot over burning reeds. 21 Its breath sets coals ablaze, and flames dart from its mouth. 22 Strength resides in its neck; dismay goes before it. 23 The folds of its flesh are tightly joined; they are firm and immovable. 24 Its chest is hard as rock, hard as a lower millstone. Yea that does not describe a dinosaur. |
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