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@obi_jon | 16 August 19 | |
@ kimjongl - 15.08.19 - 09:10pm Because it's like Trump was guarding him personally. The federal government is riddled with deep state bureaucrats and Obama holdovers. His own FBI agents were plotting against him. Trump being the president doesn't mean he oversees the day to day running of a jail. Good job following the directives of the memo though. The Trump appointed Billy Barr justice department bares ultimate responsibility for ensuring any prisoner in federal custody is kept safe until they can be brought to justice. Considering both Trump and Barr have direct personal involvement in the Epstein case, they both should and WOULD have been more than aware of the importance of doing so and made double damn sure of it, especially if they had nothing to fear or that could be damaging to them should Epstein have made it to his trial alive. |
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@obi_jon | 16 August 19 | |
For anybody to pretend otherwise is simply denialism.
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@eyesore | 16 August 19 | |
@ obi_jon - 16.08.19 - 08:01am The Trump appointed Billy Barr justice department bares ultimate responsibility for ensuring any prisoner in federal custody is kept safe until they can be brought to justice. Considering both Trump and Barr have direct personal involvement in the Epstein case, they both should and WOULD have been more than aware of the importance of doing so and made double damn sure of it, especially if they had nothing to fear or that could be damaging to them should Epstein have made it to his trial alive. You think trump ordered him to be killed ? |
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@obi_jon | 16 August 19 | |
@ eyesore - 16.08.19 - 08:38am You think trump ordered him to be killed ? No, I don't think that. Trump's justice department failed to keep him safe in their custody, as is their responsibility, that's just a fact, regardless of any theories and speculation on how he died and the circumstances that led to it. The official explanation is that he committed suicide, despite the President retweeting conspiracy theories to the contrary. There is no evidence to suggest that anyone else was involved, or how they would have been able to bypass the multiple high level security procedures in place at what is being described as one the the most high security federal prison facilities in the US. It is reported that the guards who were supposed to be watching him may have fallen asleep, which allowed an opportunity for Epstein to take his own life but it was also reported that the whole area where Epstein was being held, including his cell, is supposedly covered by CCTV cameras that would make it impossible for anyone else to have snuck in, murdered him and snuck out again without being detected. Assuming all the CCTV were working then it should be simple to determine whether or not he was alone in his cell at the time of his death. So in all intents and purposes it should have been impossible for Epstein to have died at anyone else's hands but his own. |
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@obi_jon | 16 August 19 | |
I do know that he was in a federal prison run by the justice department, which I know is run by Bill Barr, who I know was appointed by Trump and I know both of whom are personally directly involved in the Epstein case. If anyone had both a motive PLUS the access AND the opportunity to have had Epstein whacked AND then cover that fact up, all whilst inside a federal prison without being detected, then it would have to be them, being the ones who are ultimately in charge of the prison he was being held in. If anyone really believes that 'the Clinton's had him killed', not just wishes that was so, they're gonna need to prove how they could possibly have done it under the impossible conditions I have just described. |
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@obi_jon | 16 August 19 | |
What's all this i'm hearing about Melanoma being friends with Epstein before she met Trump, and possibly being introduced to her future husband for the first time at one of Epstein's house parties in New York?
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@eyesore | 16 August 19 | |
@ obi_jon - 16.08.19 - 09:19am No, I don't think that. Trump's justice department failed to keep him safe in their custody, as is their responsibility, that's just a fact, regardless of any theories and speculation on how he died and the circumstances that led to it. The official explanation is that he committed suicide, despite the President retweeting conspiracy theories to the contrary. There is no evidence to suggest that anyone else was involved, or how they would have been able to bypass the multiple high level security procedures in place at what is being described as one the the most high security federal prison facilities in the US. It is reported that the guards who were supposed to be watching him may have fallen asleep, which allowed an opportunity for Epstein to take his own life but it was also reported that the whole area where Epstein was being held, including his cell, is supposedly covered by CCTV cameras that would make it impossible for anyone else to have snuck in, murdered him and snuck out again without being detected. Assuming all the CCTV were working then it should be simple to determine whether or not he was alone in his cell at the time of his death. So in all intents and purposes it should have been impossible for Epstein to have died at anyone else's hands but his own. I've been reading there was no cctv in his cell. |
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@ladibud | 16 August 19 | |
the post mortem would seem to suggest it couldn't have been suicide from what I last read.
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@mok214 | 17 August 19 | |
It waa confirmed by the autopsy results that Epstein committed suicide by hanging today. It's the official cause of death.
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@birdy | 17 August 19 | |
No he didn't. lol
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