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@piggle | 19 September 18 | |
@ dodgey - 19.09.18 - 10:24pm Theres certain jobs that women are more suited to and certain jobs men are more suited to. A woman works well in an admin position, taking notes, being organised etc. A man can take control and deal with difficult situations , better at problem solving and knows how to organise and sort problems and better in an operations role. If you've never been allowed to know any differently how can you be so sure? We don't have true equality. We still socialise girls and boys differently and propegate the nuances of gender specific roles. The psychological, cultural and social detriment of being told that your genitals absolutely define your abilities or lackof is only beginning to wash out, we won't even know its true extent for decades if not centuries. We already know there's wildly intelligent and successful women out there given half a chance. As a bobs and vagine person I can tell you right now I possess far more knowledge and understanding of the world around me than you've ever displayed. |
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@mz.c | 19 September 18 | |
@ trunking - 19.09.18 - 04:51pm Okay, I'm not talking about front-of-house security guards but actual receptionists who happen to be male. Have to say I've never seen one so I assume it's not so. But do they exist, elsewhere? I don't think it's very common but nothing wrong with a male receptionist. |
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@1bad_boy | 19 September 18 | |
Ive seen a few but havent given it much thought, nothing surprises me anymore since trump was elected president of merica
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@dan27notts | 20 September 18 | |
@ piggle - 19.09.18 - 11:12pm If you've never been allowed to know any differently how can you be so sure? We don't have true equality. We still socialise girls and boys differently and propegate the nuances of gender specific roles. The psychological, cultural and social detriment of being told that your genitals absolutely define your abilities or lackof is only beginning to wash out, we won't even know its true extent for decades if not centuries. We already know there's wildly intelligent and successful women out there given half a chance. As a bobs and vagine person I can tell you right now I possess far more knowledge and understanding of the world around me than you've ever displayed. In gender roles i think its unfair that people use the analogy of your 'genitals' define what you can and cant do. I think we need to be realistic and understand that men and women are different and some suit other roles better than others and that is for purely genetic reasons. I'll use the construction industry as an example, traditionally a male dominated environment but now in seeing more and more women out on site but mainly in only 3 roles, environmental, health and safety and as civil engineers, which arent physically taxing but just need someone with a bit of intelligence. Now im not saying a woman could never do my job but it would be very hard to come by one that could, and the same goes for ground workers, rope access workers who put pylons together, cable pullers etc you're just not going to find a woman in those roles |
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@ladibud | 20 September 18 | |
here security and reception are totally different jobs with different qualifications and jobs to do... and yeah finding a make recptionist is few and far inbetween.. so few and far that I have personally never dealt with one myself ... |
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@mikeymk | 20 September 18 | |
There's one at Bedford swimming pool, but he's camp as a row of pink tents, and wears full make-up, so he's probably gone for the most feminine role he could think of.
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@piggle | 20 September 18 | |
@ dan27notts - 20.09.18 - 10:45am In gender roles i think its unfair that people use the analogy of your 'genitals' define what you can and cant do. I think we need to be realistic and understand that men and women are different and some suit other roles better than others and that is for purely genetic reasons. I'll use the construction industry as an example, traditionally a male dominated environment but now in seeing more and more women out on site but mainly in only 3 roles, environmental, health and safety and as civil engineers, which arent physically taxing but just need someone with a bit of intelligence. Now im not saying a woman could never do my job but it would be very hard to come by one that could, and the same goes for ground workers, rope access workers who put pylons together, cable pullers etc you're just not going to find a woman in those roles Because we've all grown up being told its not for us, we should be feminine and dainty and not to take risks because we have to have babies while boys will be boys. We have never lived in a time where both sexes are told they are actually equal in opportunity. No bias or nuance. Sex is not gender either. There's honestly no such thing as a gender role. Admin/secreterial work was famously only for men til women were allowed to do it then it became womens work |
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@mikeymk | 20 September 18 | |
Come on, you don't put a man and a woman in a boxing ring together, and it ain't because you were given a doll for your 4th birthday. Women are a downright bloody liability in some jobs - though with health'n'safety restricting men's physical capabilities, the gap is closing. And women who can have kids are still a liability. And women are neither emotionally or psychologically equal to men, either - though that also varies within genders. And women do have certain strengths over men. I don't understand why there's so much resistance against embracing this - it'd make for a more efficient workforce if the right jobs are given to the right genders if it means utilising those strengths. |
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@piggle | 20 September 18 | |
@ mikeymk - 20.09.18 - 12:34pm Come on, you don't put a man and a woman in a boxing ring together, and it ain't because you were given a doll for your 4th birthday. Women are a downright bloody liability in some jobs - though with health'n'safety restricting men's physical capabilities, the gap is closing. And women who can have kids are still a liability. And women are neither emotionally or psychologically equal to men, either - though that also varies within genders. And women do have certain strengths over men. I don't understand why there's so much resistance against embracing this - it'd make for a more efficient workforce if the right jobs are given to the right genders if it means utilising those strengths. Physicality isn't intrinsically linked to opportunity? men are all emotionally fu*ked cause crying is the worst thing that can happen to them. The freedom of emotion is your worst enemy yet there's a global statistic for violence and sexual crime 93-96pc in men's 'favour' We've never lived in a time where 'stop crying like a little girl' hasn't been implemented in our phsyche. being considered subordinate cause of a lack of muscle fibres doesn't fly with me, I'm far more competent, confident and knowledgeable than so many men around me |
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@piggle | 20 September 18 | |
Being told all your life that you can't compete with a man has such a detrimental affect on our psychology
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