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@0gypsy0 | 11 January 17 | |
and why do JW's always read only verse 28 from John chapter 5 while preaching and totally ignore verse 29 ?
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@alvar89 | 11 January 17 | |
@ manszar - 11.01.17 - 12:20pm in matthew jesus says the stars will fall from the sky. which of course is impossible, its almost like he didnt understand the nature of those things, A pedant will always have a hard time getting someones point especially when dealing with ancient philosophical stories they have something against. Ppl who want it to look bad will say the story of genesis is written as a accurate scientific book also which its clearly not. When we all would be like this we would see expressive speech like oh in a second im there etc to be dead and gone. |
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@halman | 19 February 17 | |
@ 0gypsy0 - 11.01.17 - 01:05pm yeah and after the Armageddon there will be that resurrection and people will live in paradise for 1000 years . But do you care to explain this verses about the bad ones from the grave who will be resurrected to be condemned ? And no , the ''evil angels or rebels one aren't in the grave waiting to be resurrected and judged , please dont twist it mr JW , John 5:28-29 New International Version (NIV) 28 Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come outthose who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned Their resurrection would be one of condemnation IF they went on to do bad and ignore the laws that they'll be taught. After all, Romans 6:7, says For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin. |
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@halman | 19 February 17 | |
@ 0gypsy0 - 11.01.17 - 01:10pm and why do JW's always read only verse 28 from John chapter 5 while preaching and totally ignore verse 29 ? No..we don't ignore verse 29... |
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@halman | 19 February 17 | |
@ manszar - 11.01.17 - 12:20pm in matthew jesus says the stars will fall from the sky. which of course is impossible, its almost like he didnt understand the nature of those things, Jesus spoke in illustrations or parrables, used hyperbole and symbolic and figurative language. Stars in the Bible also can refer to people, angels, rulers etc. The resurrected Jesus refered to himself as the bright morning star, in the book of Revelation. Darkening of sun moon and stars is used for prophetic warnings. Jesus also used expressions like Joel 2: 31, when speaking of the time of the end. Stars falling being a symbolic part of the warnings. Doctrinally, Jesus was used to bring forth creation such as the stars, so he definately understood the nature of things. Anyway, those who wish to find out more, go to www.jw.org |
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@halman | 19 February 17 | |
@ manszar - 11.01.17 - 12:17pm which earth will they inherit? The earth cleansed of the wicked. New earth doesn't mean another planet. ... Again, symbolic language is used by the apostle Peter in 2 Peter 3:7 and10 -13... Jesus quoted from Psalm 37 when refering to the meek inheriting the earth. Verses 9-11.. 29.. 34.. Our planet earth will not be destroyed.. only the wicked people upon it. But even they are given a chance to change as we see in verse 9 of 2 Peter 3 He does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance. .. |
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@halman | 20 February 17 | |
@ 0gypsy0 - 11.01.17 - 01:05pm yeah and after the Armageddon there will be that resurrection and people will live in paradise for 1000 years . But do you care to explain this verses about the bad ones from the grave who will be resurrected to be condemned ? And no , the ''evil angels or rebels one aren't in the grave waiting to be resurrected and judged , please dont twist it mr JW , John 5:28-29 New International Version (NIV) 28 Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come outthose who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned And I never said the evil angels rebels were in the grave waiting to be resurrected... |
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@ogdenz | 20 February 17 | |
@ halman - 19.02.17 - 08:58pm The earth cleansed of the wicked. New earth doesn't mean another planet. ... Again, symbolic language is used by the apostle Peter in 2 Peter 3:7 and10 -13... Jesus quoted from Psalm 37 when refering to the meek inheriting the earth. Verses 9-11.. 29.. 34.. Our planet earth will not be destroyed.. only the wicked people upon it. But even they are given a chance to change as we see in verse 9 of 2 Peter 3 He does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance. .. But God is omniscient is he not? If so then why did he even bother creating those folk he already knows won't obey his laws? How many more false prophesies of when the end will come are the JWs going to make? |
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