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@rmt | 13 August 23 | |
I'm selling mine if anyone wants to buy it, slighty used, one previous owner ..
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@miaiad | 22 August 23 | |
@ slick_01 - 11.08.23 - 01:30am You claim you won't, but deep down you're tempted as hell. Temptations are ture and existing. Yet, not always what you like or desire is something right / wise to do. Not only an instant win that you'd like, but both short and long term consequences. --- I'd accept the offer if that was I'm totally free from conditions |
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@miaiad | 22 August 23 | |
@ crail - 12.08.23 - 04:28am It's stupid because what exactly is your soul anyway? There's no such thing. We are all just a brain with nerve tentacles living in a meat skeleton Cannot be true If that was true, then the matter of life and death will be simply like maths: x + y = z That is, what's keeping a person alive? good health? good food? good lifestyle? etc? There are 100s of example that we all seen for - people die suddenly without any minor indications from those we know that they likely to lose life soon. - and those continue to live for long, eventhough lots of indications they might die sooner. ---- A human body with all nurves/blood/muscles/etc is made from basic chemical elements that are known in nature. Can we reproduce even the most simple creature? We might be able to re-produce the material, but how to give it life that it becomes alive as creature we see? no way. The secret of soul is the answer and our info will still limited how that magical combination works. ---- ((O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued.)) Quran 22:73 ((And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about the soul. Say, The soul is of the affair of my Lord. And mankind have not been given of knowledge except a little.)) Quran 17:85 |
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@crail | 22 August 23 | |
@ miaiad - 22.08.23 - 04:48am Cannot be true If that was true, then the matter of life and death will be simply like maths: x + y = z That is, what's keeping a person alive? good health? good food? good lifestyle? etc? There are 100s of example that we all seen for - people die suddenly without any minor indications from those we know that they likely to lose life soon. - and those continue to live for long, eventhough lots of indications they might die sooner. ---- A human body with all nurves/blood/muscles/etc is made from basic chemical elements that are known in nature. Can we reproduce even the most simple creature? We might be able to re-produce the material, but how to give it life that it becomes alive as creature we see? no way. The secret of soul is the answer and our info will still limited how that magical combination works. ---- ((O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued.)) Quran 22:73 ((And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about the soul. Say, The soul is of the affair of my Lord. And mankind have not been given of knowledge except a little.)) Quran 17:85 Give it a few hundred years and we with be creating life. It's natural evolution for all intelligent life in the universe |
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@crail | 22 August 23 | |
Of course we can't create humans yet lol. It's taken hundreds of millions of years for nature to evolve. You think we're advanced enough to figure that out? We've only been smart for the last 200 years, remember
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@crail | 22 August 23 | |
Forgot what that stupid book says for one minute and use your own thought process
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@miaiad | 29 August 23 | |
@ crail - 22.08.23 - 05:32am Give it a few hundred years and we with be creating life. It's natural evolution for all intelligent life in the universe The Quran challenge is clear: create a fly, that is a simple creature and give it life identical to what we see in flies. Will never happen. Just do it, then for certain if happens, this invalidate the Quran challenge. |
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@miaiad | 29 August 23 | |
@ crail - 22.08.23 - 05:37am Of course we can't create humans yet lol. It's taken hundreds of millions of years for nature to evolve. You think we're advanced enough to figure that out? We've only been smart for the last 200 years, remember This has been discussed before.. It is not true humambeing have been smart only in the past 200 years. The misconception usually comes as people look into industrial and technology revolutions. Innovation is of cummulitaive nature. Also, it has to do alot with input to output efficiency. Simply, If you take those people lived in the past 200 years (yes same people with their capabilities), and send them back in time 2000 years without knowing anything else more than people in 2000 years ago, they would only produce same as what history shown us. They knowledge and innvovation is built up from - what is knwon - what is the needs push towards - skills and capabilities to improve. ---- When people talk about technology, they always think of modern devices or communication systems. 2000 years ago, and everythime, there was also technology. The axe and using fire are simple examples. --- Also, we have seen historical achievements that we still amuzed and maybe nowadays we still unable to resemble such as Pyramids, hanged gardens in Babel, etc.. Not only in building but also in poet. For example, the most powerful poet in the Arabian history is that were like 1500 years ago... Where has out poetry capabilities vanished? What happened to us no able to produce the same if we are smarter only 200 years ago?? |
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@miaiad | 29 August 23 | |
@ crail - 22.08.23 - 05:39am Forgot what that stupid book says for one minute and use your own thought process I'm always using my mind. The more I do the more I believe.. ---- From Quran 2:23-24 (And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful. But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.) --- If Quran is made by a human, then another human can do. Let all people help each other and produce one chapter/surah similar to Quran, they never can. That's a clear and ever lasting challenge. ... |
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@crail | 30 August 23 | |
@ miaiad - 29.08.23 - 11:44pm This has been discussed before.. It is not true humambeing have been smart only in the past 200 years. The misconception usually comes as people look into industrial and technology revolutions. Innovation is of cummulitaive nature. Also, it has to do alot with input to output efficiency. Simply, If you take those people lived in the past 200 years (yes same people with their capabilities), and send them back in time 2000 years without knowing anything else more than people in 2000 years ago, they would only produce same as what history shown us. They knowledge and innvovation is built up from - what is knwon - what is the needs push towards - skills and capabilities to improve. ---- When people talk about technology, they always think of modern devices or communication systems. 2000 years ago, and everythime, there was also technology. The axe and using fire are simple examples. --- Also, we have seen historical achievements that we still amuzed and maybe nowadays we still unable to resemble such as Pyramids, hanged gardens in Babel, etc.. Not only in building but also in poet. For example, the most powerful poet in the Arabian history is that were like 1500 years ago... Where has out poetry capabilities vanished? What happened to us no able to produce the same if we are smarter only 200 years ago?? I'm not talking buildings like the pyramids lol (large bricks that aligned with stars, theres nothing to that), poetry or very simple things like axes and that any human of this age could invent in 2 minutes. I'm talking nuclear fusion, electricity, robots, gene editing, AI, how the universe works, and in the future, traveling to different galaxies, finding other life, making life etc. It is built up, yeah, because inheritance is part of evolution. Inheritance that you build on over thousands or millions of years will be beyond anything you can imagine in the last last few million years we've been around. We will create simple life in the future, guaranteed. I always say that if you can imagine something then humans will turn it into reality in the future. |
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