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@dom4subs | 26 February 17 | |
@ alvar89 - 22.02.17 - 04:02pm Linus Tech Tips on it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rUndzpdo1I I'm new to pc building and don't understand most of what he talks about when he gets technical, but I do love a linus video. Loved the one when they did the mineral oil build |
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@spartan2 | 2 March 17 | |
Yeah well. Ryzen gets smashed in games by the 6700/7700k as predicted oh well. Battlefield 1 is one of the very best threaded games and it still doesn't really keep up even in that. If you want it for games get Intel. If you want it for anything but games, it looks pretty decent.
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@spartan2 | 3 March 17 | |
@ alvar89 - 24.02.17 - 05:11pm Will be interesting if the ryzen clocks as close. The 7700 does not do 1ghz oc very easily without proper cooling. If the rysen does lets say 4.8ghz from its lower start then it will make intel sweat. Overclocking on the 8 cores looks really poor. Nobody can get them past 4ghz without extreme voltage and therefore extreme cooling. The 1800x can't even boost to its claimed 4ghz a bunch of the time it seems!!!! Shame really but it's another black mark when Intel's architectures overclock and scales better. Maybe the lower end Ryzen parts will do better, or maybe it needs a whole bunch of revisions. But as it stands it's not great. |
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@alvar89 | 3 March 17 | |
@ spartan2 - 3.03.17 - 02:02am Overclocking on the 8 cores looks really poor. Nobody can get them past 4ghz without extreme voltage and therefore extreme cooling. The 1800x can't even boost to its claimed 4ghz a bunch of the time it seems!!!! Shame really but it's another black mark when Intel's architectures overclock and scales better. Maybe the lower end Ryzen parts will do better, or maybe it needs a whole bunch of revisions. But as it stands it's not great. It was more to go against the clocks of the x99 chips not kabylake tho. There does seem to be alot of issues also no more than 2400mhz ram speed. There are some good points still like much faster cache speeds than intel etc. If they tweak it right it still a better chip for ppl who need the cores but dont want to pay a 1000usd for a 8 core. The gaming side is poor but frametimes are smooth might get some boost with later revisions. Its a impressive chip compared to what they had before. The 1700x is a great chip to get and will be more futureproof with its 8 cores and faster cache. Many ppl go on for 4-5 years or even more on a cpu. I am still running my 5 years old 3770k and dont see a reason to upgrade. Will wait for the next intel lineup. Definetly want more that 4 cores next. 4 core chips will gripple soon im sure of it. |
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@john_163 | 3 March 17 | |
ryzen 1700x looks solid..will be replaceng my fx with it.. getn cosair RM 550 Watts Psu nxt month then a RX 470
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@spartan2 | 3 March 17 | |
@ alvar89 - 3.03.17 - 05:44am It was more to go against the clocks of the x99 chips not kabylake tho. There does seem to be alot of issues also no more than 2400mhz ram speed. There are some good points still like much faster cache speeds than intel etc. If they tweak it right it still a better chip for ppl who need the cores but dont want to pay a 1000usd for a 8 core. The gaming side is poor but frametimes are smooth might get some boost with later revisions. Its a impressive chip compared to what they had before. The 1700x is a great chip to get and will be more futureproof with its 8 cores and faster cache. Many ppl go on for 4-5 years or even more on a cpu. I am still running my 5 years old 3770k and dont see a reason to upgrade. Will wait for the next intel lineup. Definetly want more that 4 cores next. 4 core chips will gripple soon im sure of it. Yes but even the 6900k can do like 4.5ghz with good cooling. I'm wondering now if Ryzen really struggles to hit higher clocks and scale, the fact AMD haven't announced any quads with high clocks like the 6700/7700k is interesting. You would think that the 6 and 4 core processors would clock higher but I'm already suspicious, because even if you chuck mega voltage at these chips they won't budge above 4-4.1ghz and it's been confirmed across many outlets. I really don't see it as a great chip with such weak gaming performance and by the sounds of it that is because of weak integer against intel designs which are more balanced in that sense. It is a great productivity chip but there is no doubt Intel still have a better architecture in old Broadwell-E, which is being replaced by Skylake and Kaby Lake X this year anyway. |
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@alvar89 | 4 March 17 | |
I bet the quad core chips will compete well against those pentiums and i3 as they can be overclocked. A true quad against a hyperthreaded dual core will do well in many games. Budget gamers will love those.
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@alvar89 | 4 March 17 | |
AMD made excuses of being unoptimized and that they sent out dev kits to major companies to optimize for there cpu. We will see lol.
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@alvar89 | 6 March 17 | |
Reviewers say ryzen is much smoother in games and has better lows in fps. Seems the r7 chips were targeted for the enthusiasts first to sort out problems before the r5 and r3 come out more leaned for gamers. Wendel said a stutter he felt in gta 5 usually is gone on ryzen interesting times ahead.
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@spartan2 | 7 March 17 | |
http://www.techspot.com/review/1348-amd-ryzen-gaming-performance/ Sorry but smoother? It gets smashed I hope they can improve it in games I really do, but the prospects aren't great. Even in 1440p where you are more GPU bound it gets rekt in half a dozen games and never wins against the top intel quads. In fact the top end fastest 1800X doesn't even beat the minimums of the 7600k most of the time. It's just a weaker gaming architecture that desperately needs some serious optimisation. Also on this basis where the 8 cores have so much cache then AMD have to come out with a really highly clocked quad to get near the 7600K for example but it doesn't look like Ryzen clocks highly at all yet. If the 1800X @ 3.6ghz and 4ghz boost with 16 threads and 20mb cache can't beat the 3.8ghz 7600K with 4 threads and 6mb cache then how precisely are the Ryzen quads going to get very close to it. Well it probably won't. We'll see. |
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