Acts, can a woman meet the requirements of 1 Timothy 3:2 and titus 1:6?

Lol good point bobdylan, but thankfully nobody actually takes that statement literally, or there would be a lot of one eyed christians walking about lol

phew !

Now in fairness, that version exists as it does in the rsv oneness about the ''five fold'' ministry. But it does not mention anything at all about women excercising such offices.

purest i am not saying women can hold the highest office in the church. but they can hold offices in the ministry. i do. my grandmother did. my great aunt an aunt all called as ministers. my grandmother was the pastor and my grandfather the bishop.

What?

I can name two women who are prophetess in the bible which proves women in the five fold ministry deborah and anna. That's old and new testament. Most churches allow women to teach Sunday school and some bible study which teacher is in the five fold ministry. Women do evangelize which is still an ordained minister.

What do you understand to be the difference between a ministry and an office, @acts? My understanding is that the church only has two offices, stated at 1 Timothy 3:2, 10, 13. Any extra tiers are foreign. Apostle, prophet etc are not church 'offices'.

Btw bishop (overseer), pastor (shepherd) and elder are not different 'offices' but descriptors of one and the same office. Check the interchangeable use in Acts 20:17, Titus 1:5-7 and 1 Peter 5:1-2. So anyone to be appointed to shepherd (pastor) the church must meet the conditions delineated in 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1, including being the 'husband of one wife'.

What did deborah actually prophesy? I heard that is a missapropriated title of prophet given to her.

But also there was the ministry or office of deacon purest1, and there was evidence to suggest there was a female diaconate. And even more controversial a female bishop in the early christian church.

My main argument that there should be a female clergy, is the fact that after the Lord Jesus was crucified and died and was buried. He resurrected and was first encountered by not a male apostle or disciple. No it was a female and Mary Magdalene in particular who was asked not to touch Him, for he needs to ascend to the Father, and to go and tell the others where he will meet them that He is risen.

Many chauvenists would love it to have been Peter. But according to some apocryphal writings it is clear that Peter had animosity towards both Mary Magdalene and even the Disciple that Jesus loved (John).

Female deaconate? Are you referring to Phoebe @Cathar? I know some bibles call her a 'deaconness' others call her a 'servant'. Either way, we can know which rendition is correct by checking the qualifications of the office of deacon? Women bishops in the early church? Its new to me. But obviously its in the post apostolic era.

Pheobe yes, and diaconate and servant are one and the same purest1. The servant assists during the ''breaking of the bread'' it is the apostle or overseer or elder or presbyter, which includes priests not just Bishops. Who breaks the bread or offers the oblations of bread and wine in accordance to the eternal priestly order of Lord Melchizedek. Which Lord Jesus, passed on to be continued.

They are the five fold ministry which is what Iam referring too. Office may be a bad choice of words on my part

She prophesied that a woman would get honor for defeating sisera and not barak

Okay fair enough i see that deborah was a female prophet. But that is in the Old Testament as you have said. But that office or ministry was never higher than holy priesthood of Lord Melchizedek. Even the levite priesthood was inferior.

On3n3ss don't misunderstand my intentions are the same as yours. I argue the point that there should be and were women apostles, obviously it can't be argued by use of scripture. As we know Paul was a chauvenist pig lol.