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@alvar89 | 9 March 16 | |
@ manszar - 9.03.16 - 06:45am there is no interpretation in the scripture of gods mass murder. or the foolishness in the garden. or the blind arrogance of claiming one people the chosen. there is only one way to read the bible and thats without the blindfolds. for example if the fig tree incident did not happen as it is read then it is not a book of truth. never does jesus claim its a parable for israel, just turns it into a power of faith speech. unlike the parable in luke. Cant just jump in a translated text 2000 years later of cultural change and ways of composing literature without first getting on terms of those things. Have to get into the minds of the authors and know what was common to them. Without learning jewish roots there is no real way of getting to the details. Untill then the standard english text shows us overall what to do to get to God. |
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@alvar89 | 9 March 16 | |
Biblical text is to be meditated on and deeply researched to mature in the understanding of God. Psalm 1:1 Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked or stand in the way that sinners take or sit in the company of mockers, 2 but whose delight is in the law of the Lord, and who meditates on his law day and night. |
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@alvar89 | 9 March 16 | |
@ obi_jon - 9.03.16 - 09:31am The only way to read the bible is as fiction. I presume you think its fiction based on the amount of supernatural events recorded in it. It seems fictional when you think there is no supernatural Creator who can do things other ways not known to us in our commonly seen natural world. If you believe in a Creator it makes sense believing in other ways for things to work were not used to seeing. Wouldnt have been anything special if Jesus just swimmed instead of walking on water. No lesson would of been learned nor sign of Him doing it by the power of God. If He swimmed we would of said no He has the power from Himself to stay floating not God holding you up by your faith in Him etc. Also without God getting those animals all nicely on the ark without them also eating eatchother doesnt make sense. But scripture says God brought those animals and even closed the door that way it makes sense perfectly knowing He as the Creator of those beings can also control them. |
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@alvar89 | 9 March 16 | |
@ manszar - 9.03.16 - 06:45am there is no interpretation in the scripture of gods mass murder. or the foolishness in the garden. or the blind arrogance of claiming one people the chosen. there is only one way to read the bible and thats without the blindfolds. for example if the fig tree incident did not happen as it is read then it is not a book of truth. never does jesus claim its a parable for israel, just turns it into a power of faith speech. unlike the parable in luke. The wrong interpretation and positioning God leads to that conclusion. If i were to say oh life saw this group of wicked evil ppl polluting and devouring all that is good as an obstacle better to be rremoved for the sake of others it doesnt irritate ppl. But when you say God did it there the biased versions against it start flooding in. |
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@obi_jon | 9 March 16 | |
@ alvar89 - 9.03.16 - 12:03pm I presume you think its fiction based on the amount of supernatural events recorded in it. It seems fictional when you think there is no supernatural Creator who can do things other ways not known to us in our commonly seen natural world. If you believe in a Creator it makes sense believing in other ways for things to work were not used to seeing. Wouldnt have been anything special if Jesus just swimmed instead of walking on water. No lesson would of been learned nor sign of Him doing it by the power of God. If He swimmed we would of said no He has the power from Himself to stay floating not God holding you up by your faith in Him etc. Also without God getting those animals all nicely on the ark without them also eating eatchother doesnt make sense. But scripture says God brought those animals and even closed the door that way it makes sense perfectly knowing He as the Creator of those beings can also control them. Nah, it's because of all the dragons and stuff in it. By the way, it's kangaroos. |
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@obi_jon | 9 March 16 | |
I can walk on water too, when it's frozen. No miracles involved
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@alvar89 | 9 March 16 | |
@ obi_jon - 9.03.16 - 05:03pm Nah, it's because of all the dragons and stuff in it. By the way, it's kangaroos. Most of them were called like that by ancient ppl because the word dinosaur was invented in 19th century. Those illustrations are overdone also. Giant is actually nephilim etc not as big as cartoon giants because the height is mentioned in the bible Ogs bed 9 cubits about 4m. If you look into all ancient carvings etc there were bigger than normal ppl all around. Again to the point of belief in a supernatural Creator makes it no problem in believing He did a miracle thru that donkey. |
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@alvar89 | 9 March 16 | |
@ obi_jon - 9.03.16 - 05:07pm I can walk on water too, when it's frozen. No miracles involved Jesus walking on ice in a desert region is still a miraculous sign |
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@asurreym | 9 March 16 | |
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jesus also walks on the moon, and mars Jupiter and all the other planets in our solar system
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@ogdenz | 9 March 16 | |
Eh?
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