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@manszar | 10 March 16 |
@ alvar89 - 9.03.16 - 09:15am Its not my claim. Luke 9:22 And he said, The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life. Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? |
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@manszar | 10 March 16 |
@ alvar89 - 9.03.16 - 09:18am If you read my previous texts you see i pointed all commandments were given not that one. I also said its not that one because its singular and He said plural. yes you lied by claiming jesus was talking about all the commandment instead of the ones he gave. |
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@manszar | 10 March 16 |
@ alvar89 - 9.03.16 - 09:22am They didnt understand fully before pentecost. John 14:9 Jesus answered: Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? you insult God at every chance you get dont you. image God standing in front of them could not even convince them. let me guess they were also suffering from the blinding affects that god was performing on the jews, to blind them from seeing the king he told them would come. |
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@manszar | 10 March 16 |
@ alvar89 - 9.03.16 - 09:51am Cant just jump in a translated text 2000 years later of cultural change and ways of composing literature without first getting on terms of those things. Have to get into the minds of the authors and know what was common to them. Without learning jewish roots there is no real way of getting to the details. Untill then the standard english text shows us overall what to do to get to God. refer you to my previous answer |
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@manszar | 10 March 16 |
@ alvar89 - 9.03.16 - 09:57am Biblical text is to be meditated on and deeply researched to mature in the understanding of God. Psalm 1:1 Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked or stand in the way that sinners take or sit in the company of mockers, 2 but whose delight is in the law of the Lord, and who meditates on his law day and night. i remember you did not even understand what messiah meant when you first started preaching on hear ![]() |
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@manszar | 10 March 16 |
@ alvar89 - 9.03.16 - 01:37pm The wrong interpretation and positioning God leads to that conclusion. If i were to say oh life saw this group of wicked evil ppl polluting and devouring all that is good as an obstacle better to be rremoved for the sake of others it doesnt irritate ppl. But when you say God did it there the biased versions against it start flooding in. again you fail to see. how many innocent children were killed? why was all the animals killed? to what good did it come to? is the devil still the ruler of this world? is not this world full of sin today? why when god can claim to harden the hearts of men did god not soften them? you see this is not a act of a loving god. or a necessary won. because if they were as the bible says so sinful then self destruction was inevitable. the people would have been better off to work this out for themselves. as we need to today. sin does lead to death and destruction because its ways are destructive to our community lifestyle. |
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@alvar89 | 10 March 16 |
@ manszar - 8.03.16 - 12:31am that was no doubt common practice in the day it was written and the day of the death of jesus Did you know back when David wrote that prophetic psalm there was no crucifixion. Psalm 22:16Dogs surround me, a pack of villains encircles me; they pierce my hands and my feet. |
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@asurreym | 10 March 16 |
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@ ogdenz - 9.03.16 - 08:04pm Eh? His rays reach far and wide,for he is the light of the world, our risen saviour and he will come again,about 5.30 am tomorrow morning when he wins his battle with set then about 6pm in the evening he will lose his battle with set and he will die again, but don't worry our saviour will rise again to feed the hungry and heal the sick |
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@alvar89 | 10 March 16 |
@ manszar - 10.03.16 - 12:52am i remember you did not even understand what messiah meant when you first started preaching on hear ![]() You mean i didnt understand what your interpretation of the Messiah was ![]() |
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@alvar89 | 10 March 16 |
@ manszar - 10.03.16 - 12:46am you insult God at every chance you get dont you. image God standing in front of them could not even convince them. let me guess they were also suffering from the blinding affects that god was performing on the jews, to blind them from seeing the king he told them would come. Ppl were spiritually blind and couldnt understand nomatter how well He explained things they needed the Baptizm of the Holy Spirit to understand God. You cant convince a spiritually dead person only the Holy Spirit can do that if the heart is willing and doesnt hate the truth. |
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@alvar89 | 10 March 16 |
@ manszar - 10.03.16 - 12:42am yes you lied by claiming jesus was talking about all the commandment instead of the ones he gave. @alvar892 days @ midge275 - 8.03.16 - 12:51pm The commandments of Jesus were that I love the Lord our God with all of my heart, soul and mind. His second was that I love my neighbour as myself. Those He pointed to as the highest of commandments. Those who love God are also asked to follow the Torah after being redeemed. We are right by faith in Christ infront of the Most High but the the Torah is still to be followed. Sabbath is still to be kept also. Didnt you see this? |
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@alvar89 | 10 March 16 |
@ manszar - 10.03.16 - 01:03am again you fail to see. how many innocent children were killed? why was all the animals killed? to what good did it come to? is the devil still the ruler of this world? is not this world full of sin today? why when god can claim to harden the hearts of men did god not soften them? you see this is not a act of a loving god. or a necessary won. because if they were as the bible says so sinful then self destruction was inevitable. the people would have been better off to work this out for themselves. as we need to today. sin does lead to death and destruction because its ways are destructive to our community lifestyle. If The Creator saw those kids being under the same curse and spirituality growing up as there wicked baby sacrificing parents who made innocents suffer and wanted to take them to Himself in heaven before they turn into monsters would it be bad? He is the giver of life and sure knows better than you and i what to do with it. Ppl always contstantly give the ruleship of there life to satan yes and not God because of there l*st for sin. So you knowing better than God would of suggested letting the wicked carry on oppressing the innocents and destroying everything at the end? Problem is with some ppl they think they know whats good but actually dont have foresight of what it causes. Also There are alot more wicked ppl than those nice ones who make you think mankind can be fixed by evolving good manners etc.Without unity under a ultimate moral Giver we end up destroying eachother in selfishness along with this planet. Take away all the great morals given by God and His convicting of hearts and end up only where there is man with his own doing you see hell. |
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@alvar89 | 10 March 16 |
@ manszar - 10.03.16 - 12:40am Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? Im a bit foggy in head regard of you using that verse ![]() |
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@alvar89 | 10 March 16 |
Its easy actually if you know why He used 2 titles Son of Man and Son of God if you know He points to His 2 natures.
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@alvar89 | 10 March 16 |
Those are some interesting verses to look side by side.... John 9:6When He had said this, He spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and applied the clay to his eyes, 7and said to him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam (which is translated, Sent). So he went away and washed, and came back seeing. Genesis 2:7 then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature. John 20:22And when He had said this, He breathed on them and said to them, Receive the Holy Spirit. |
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@alvar89 | 10 March 16 |
John 9:9 As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. This verse points out he was blind from birth so basically needed new eyes formed. Only One can do that out of the clay, mud dust of the earth...Just saying ![]() |
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@alvar89 | 10 March 16 |
Isaiah 9:6For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. Cant get around that verse even if you wanted to lol. |
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@manszar | 12 March 16 |
@ alvar89 - 10.03.16 - 01:43pm Did you know back when David wrote that prophetic psalm there was no crucifixion. Psalm 22:16Dogs surround me, a pack of villains encircles me; they pierce my hands and my feet. Did you know that that passage is thought to be a miss translation. Even if its not what do dogs do to if they bite? Pierce the skin ![]() |
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@manszar | 12 March 16 |
@ alvar89 - 10.03.16 - 06:58pm You mean i didnt understand what your interpretation of the Messiah was ![]() I dont have my own interpretation of messiah and i never asked you for my interpretation, just its meaning. ![]() |
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@manszar | 12 March 16 |
@ alvar89 - 10.03.16 - 07:01pm Ppl were spiritually blind and couldnt understand nomatter how well He explained things they needed the Baptizm of the Holy Spirit to understand God. You cant convince a spiritually dead person only the Holy Spirit can do that if the heart is willing and doesnt hate the truth. So the apostles where spiritually dead? |
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