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Was He really the only begotten son of God? What about that verse that says, those who do the will of God, they will be called sons and daughters of God?? Noah, Job,the desciples, Elijah,etc, they all did the will of God.??? |
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@miaiad | 4 March 20 |
Quran 112: 1. Say: He is Allah, the Unique. 2. Allah, the Self-Sufficient. 3. He does not give birth, nor was He born. 4. And there is none equal to Him. |
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@miaiad | 4 March 20 |
Verse 3: (3) He does not give birth, nor was He born. This verse describes another aspect of Allahs Unique Oneness. False religions generally represent God in human terms by either giving Him human characteristics and or human form. This verse deals primarily with two distinct characteristics of human beings and other living creatures in general: coming into existence by being born and procreating by giving birth. He (Allah) does not give birth, because there is nothing similar to him. A child is made from portions (sperm and ovum) of the bodies of its parents which is why it is similar to its parents in form and characteristics. If God gave birth, there would be another god like Him, which His uniqueness has already negated. The Almighty also rejected the concept of having a child from the perspective that bearing offspring usually requires a female partner similar in form to the male. Allah also rejected offspring from the general perspective that it is not befitting, since to have a child would reduce him to the status of His creatures. This answers the question of those who claim that since it is agreed that God can do anything, He should be able to have a son if He wished. It is not befitting because it would make God like His creatures. Furthermore people have children out of a need for help to survive in this material world or out of the need for continued existence through ones progeny. |
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@7stars | 4 March 20 |
Well said, algamdulilah!
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@ufohunter | 5 March 20 |
You do realise that there's more guarantee of eternal life through salvation in the Redemption Plan of Christ than by blindly following Islam even after rejecting the Gospels. How I see it, Islam=waste of time Christ-=you are promised eternal life by Grace which is sufficient Go figure. |
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@ufohunter | 5 March 20 |
So reject the Gospels.. we have to all work out our salvation as individuals. I can promise you this: I can still go to heaven after rejecting Islam but the Gospels I'm guaranteed having ![]() |
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@7stars | 6 March 20 |
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Uhm, have u noticed that all the gospels start with the gospel ACCORDING to Mathew,Mark, etc...?? like the writers of those books don't believe it themselves. I'm yet to see the gospels ACCORDING TO JESUS PBUH HIMSELF! Which was removed with so many other books from the Bible. That gospel was the one that has made Jesus pbuh infamous in the eyes of His own people, His own family!! Do ur research.
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@7stars | 6 March 20 |
Mr ufohunter, here some good advice for u. Just for reading and believing the gospels is never enough to ensure ur spot in heaven. Why? Cos u have darkness in ur heart, animosity towards other faiths and cultures. Ur filled wit negativity. God is a source of love and Light, not darkness and hatred.
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@ufohunter | 6 March 20 |
@ 7stars - 6.03.20 - 11:04am Mr ufohunter, here some good advice for u. Just for reading and believing the gospels is never enough to ensure ur spot in heaven. Why? Cos u have darkness in ur heart, animosity towards other faiths and cultures. Ur filled wit negativity. God is a source of love and Light, not darkness and hatred. The god of Islam is no God of mine Only the God of Judaism is to be believed, Which is the same as in Christianity Jesus fulfilled the Law not to abolish it. Islam was made by Muhammad to stop people believing in Jesus, And are thus being brainwashed by Imams promising martyrdom for evil terrorist acts such as suicide car bombings etc Only Shia Islam is okay |
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@ufohunter | 6 March 20 |
I had to state the Truth ![]() I know it hurts but Eternity is no joke |
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@ufohunter | 6 March 20 |
@ 7stars - 6.03.20 - 10:51am Uhm, have u noticed that all the gospels start with the gospel ACCORDING to Mathew,Mark, etc...?? like the writers of those books don't believe it themselves. I'm yet to see the gospels ACCORDING TO JESUS PBUH HIMSELF! Which was removed with so many other books from the Bible. That gospel was the one that has made Jesus pbuh infamous in the eyes of His own people, His own family!! Do ur research. Written by those close to Jesus. Grace is sufficient I'm not wasting my time praying set prayers 4-5 times a day. I just have to be myself: Darkness within but 'The Holy Spirit' cleansing my heart over time if I allow Him |
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@ufohunter | 6 March 20 |
I know I've been living apart from God for a very long time but just discussing, or debating, is actually reenforcing my belief which was luke warm When I die I want to be sure where I'm going |
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@ufohunter | 6 March 20 |
If I had to be Muslim I'd be off to hell as I am not that patient, possibly autistic. ..Now you see why Christianity is so easily believable |
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@ufohunter | 6 March 20 |
@ ufohunter - 6.03.20 - 01:09pm The god of Islam is no God of mine Only the God of Judaism is to be believed, Which is the same as in Christianity Jesus fulfilled the Law not to abolish it. Islam was made by Muhammad to stop people believing in Jesus, And are thus being brainwashed by Imams promising martyrdom for evil terrorist acts such as suicide car bombings etc Only Shia Islam is okay Sorry for the harshness in my words but how can I not be myself and say what's on my mind ![]() |
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@0gypsy0 | 6 March 20 |
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@ogdenz | 6 March 20 |
Islam,Christianity...it's all a pile of horse sh*t.
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@ufohunter | 6 March 20 |
@ ogdenz - 6.03.20 - 06:17pm Islam,Christianity...it's all a pile of horse sh*t. Yep. Organised religion is mostly like that (Even Catholism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Mormonism etc etc) I'm none of that I have my own simple belief Last went to church over two 1/2 years ago ![]() |
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@disarrayed | 7 March 20 |
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@ogdenz | 7 March 20 |
@ ufohunter - 6.03.20 - 06:32pm Yep. Organised religion is mostly like that (Even Catholism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Mormonism etc etc) I'm none of that I have my own simple belief Last went to church over two 1/2 years ago ![]() Well said. |
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@manszar | 8 March 20 |
@ ufohunter - 6.03.20 - 01:09pm The god of Islam is no God of mine Only the God of Judaism is to be believed, Which is the same as in Christianity Jesus fulfilled the Law not to abolish it. Islam was made by Muhammad to stop people believing in Jesus, And are thus being brainwashed by Imams promising martyrdom for evil terrorist acts such as suicide car bombings etc Only Shia Islam is okay yet christians claim the law of the jews is no more,,, so abolished. ![]() |
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@7stars | 9 March 20 |
I'd suggest u do a proper research on Islam other than being led by biased media who don't understand the first thing about Islam. Have u ever personally hear an imam preaching terrorism? Do u even know what the term *Islam means?? Do ur own homework, brother. Then also if u want the truth,then read Matthew 7:7-8,Jeremiah 29:13 and then Luke 15:20. It will help if u remove those blinkers. Become enlightened.See if u can make sense of ur life.
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