Ok, so I've installed Windows 8 on an old laptop... I don't like it. The apps interface is fine for a tablet, but when using a laptop it's just annoying. Why remove 'proper' start from bottom left? I don't want to select the app interface and then choose windows explorer. The other annoying thing is having to sign in to the computer with a Windows Live profile. The point of this is so everything's integrated? Great, but...

... I've signed in using my Live profile that I've had for years, but it's different to my Xbox profile. When trying to use Xbox Connect it then tells me to log off from the computer and sign in with my Xbox profile instead of my main profile. It's stupid that I cant sign into apps separately FFS. If I sign in using the Xbox profile I won't have access to messenger, sky drive or anything else that's linked to my profile.

I just don't think the two UIs fit well together.... I like a roast dinner and I like cheesecake. I don't want them on the same plate

I've pinned windows explorer to the task bar still annoyed though, it's an ugly icon.

You know why? Cos Microsoft are so dominant they can fk Windows up and ppl will STILL buy it, or have it forced on em with a new machine. And ppl wonder why I've been a staunch Microsoft hater since I was student?

Then again Apple could stick their logo on a lump of dogs**t, call it the iTurd, slap a 600 quid price sticker on it and hundreds would still camp outside shops for a week to be amongst the first to buy one.

iTurd

Windows 8 is cr*p, will be sticking with 7

ipo*p is 400 quid and it's smaller and is only lacking a couple of features *sweetcorn, peas, fibre, etc.* Great if you're always on the move

Glad it isn't just me, lol... It's all aesthetics and just gets in the way of the OS that we actually want, and need, to use for productivity. Can't see why it's needed - the app interface should be for windows based tablets only. No need to mess with the PC user's OS by combining them into one product. Android s**ts (sorry iTurds) on the Windows app interface anyway.

Windows 9 and its 'Punch' interface will fix things

The final desktop version might be different, its too early to judge, though i personally don't like metro for desktops

I dislike touch screens

The OS is great for touch, but not so much without it until you learn all the mouse gestures. Metro is there on the desktop, true, but you don't have to use it. Simply switch to the original desktop and that's it. I personally don't see why people complain when they can do this

Umm what abt xbox games? Is thr anythin like that in it that lets u play xbox games?

Yes, Xbox Live is supported. You can download Xbox titles from the Windows Store, right now only casual games. Can't buy anything yet tho. There is also a Xbox Companion application, with this you control your 360 via Windows 8

it is great for touch yeah, but on a pc or laptop its terrible. its a mobile ui used on desktop. it just doesn't work on a desktop. tasks are left running in the background and you have to open task manager to shut them down. you can't simply close them like you can on any other windows OS

have you installed win 8 for. Microsoft always take a few shots at a new thing to get it right. Rubbish versions are often then followed by good versions. Its like star trek movies, only every other one is any good