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@alvar89 | 7 March 17 |
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@ spartan2 - 7.03.17 - 05:10pm But it won't! What evidence do you even have? Look at the games benchmarks, even the dual core 4 threaded parts at the bottom of those tests I posted are competitive! It's the same old thing, more cores, more cores. For the past 10 years Intel's business has been built of FASTER cores, not more of them. It's rubbish to say the i5 aren't going to be fast enough soon. Total and utter crap. As long as you have 4 fast threads then you're fine for years. 8 you're Gr8. anymore is not worth it for the average user. The kaby x is a proof the new i5 will have hyperthreading and will propably be replacing the 4core 8 thread chips next lineup. |
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@spartan2 | 7 March 17 |
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@ alvar89 - 7.03.17 - 05:13pm The kaby x is a proof the new i5 will have hyperthreading and will propably be replacing the 4core 8 thread chips next lineup. All that proves is that the distinction between the i5 and i7 line (hyperthreading) will be meaningless. It is intel repositioning their product line. If they end up with every i5 having 8 threads then all the better for the consumer. |
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@alvar89 | 7 March 17 |
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@ spartan2 - 7.03.17 - 05:12pm Stutter when the benchmarks all show it's blowing away Ryzen  it's not enough taking their BS word for it! Evidence! Stutter is more likely driver based than CPU based. They don't have a clue. It's their perception that is false. Facts or GTFO.Driver based? The 7700k is a much more mature chip compared to ryzen and it is said to have microstutter. It would also have those on ryzen if it was related to other things. The pentium chips have loads of stuttering compared to the i3s in gta 5 also showing it might be related to thread count. |
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@alvar89 | 7 March 17 |
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@ spartan2 - 7.03.17 - 05:15pm All that proves is that the distinction between the i5 and i7 line (hyperthreading) will be meaningless. It is intel repositioning their product line. If they end up with every i5 having 8 threads then all the better for the consumer. For those who buy new i5 yes but bad luck for 6600k and 7600k users and older. The ones who bought non K chips will suffer even more not being able to overclock either. |
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@spartan2 | 7 March 17 |
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@ alvar89 - 7.03.17 - 05:16pm Driver based? The 7700k is a much more mature chip compared to ryzen and it is said to have microstutter. It would also have those on ryzen if it was related to other things. The pentium chips have loads of stuttering compared to the i3s in gta 5 also showing it might be related to thread count. It doesn't have microstutter that is the fault of the CPU. Pretty sure if it did someone who had played GTA5 with an intel quad the past 2 years might have noticed it by now and made a big issue of it  It didn't stutter on the 8 year old i7 920 I have played that particular game with
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@spartan2 | 7 March 17 |
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@ alvar89 - 7.03.17 - 05:17pm For those who buy new i5 yes but bad luck for 6600k and 7600k users and older. The ones who bought non K chips will suffer even more not being able to overclock either. Why bad luck? That is the progression of technology. 7600K's 4 threads is blatantly fast enough, 1800X can't beat the damn thing with 16 threads in a dozen modern games again as I have shown you today
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@norega | 7 March 17 |
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Not everyone is buying these cpu's for gaming
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@alvar89 | 7 March 17 |
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@ spartan2 - 7.03.17 - 05:33pm Why bad luck? That is the progression of technology. 7600K's 4 threads is blatantly fast enough, 1800X can't beat the damn thing with 16 threads in a dozen modern games again as I have shown you today The progression is the issue tho. Ppl will listen and buy a i5 on your suggestion to play on for 5 years but will have issues in the next 2 years because the industry is moving forward. The ryzen parts will do just fine when the shift comes. Mentioning the amount of threads is useless i could say a xeon with 24 cores cant beat a i3 in counter strike and that is the same kind of false comparison. |
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@alvar89 | 7 March 17 |
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@ spartan2 - 7.03.17 - 05:31pm It doesn't have microstutter that is the fault of the CPU. Pretty sure if it did someone who had played GTA5 with an intel quad the past 2 years might have noticed it by now and made a big issue of it It didn't stutter on the 8 year old i7 920 I have played that particular game withThe stutter is there according to those reviewers. It might be just windows using some of the cpu on background causing it because of the lack of cores. |
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@john_163 | 17 March 17 |
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MSI B350 AM4 Mobo Are On Sale In India 8,500 Rupees  cheap than my asrock 990 FX mobo, While The X370 AM4 MSI mobo is cheap than Asus 990 FX Mobo at 18,000 rupees
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@spartan2 | 22 March 17 |
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@ alvar89 - 7.03.17 - 06:25pm The progression is the issue tho. Ppl will listen and buy a i5 on your suggestion to play on for 5 years but will have issues in the next 2 years because the industry is moving forward. The ryzen parts will do just fine when the shift comes. Mentioning the amount of threads is useless i could say a xeon with 24 cores cant beat a i3 in counter strike and that is the same kind of false comparison. They won't have issues though. Tests prove once again Ryzen isn't much of a gaming CPU. 8 threads is really as many as you need for nearly every game. |
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@spartan2 | 22 March 17 |
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@ alvar89 - 7.03.17 - 06:31pm The stutter is there according to those reviewers. It might be just windows using some of the cpu on background causing it because of the lack of cores. It's nonsense spread by idiotic reddit users with no basis in fact or hard evidence to prove it, like frame time tests with the CPU that show nothing. |
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@spartan2 | 22 March 17 |
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@ alvar89 - 7.03.17 - 05:17pm For those who buy new i5 yes but bad luck for 6600k and 7600k users and older. The ones who bought non K chips will suffer even more not being able to overclock either. If you really want to know the users that had the REAL bad luck it is the people that dropped a crap load of money recently on X99 and any Intel 6 core. Mainly because Ryzen's 6 cores have the clocks to challenge Intel's 6 cores and are a lot cheaper. Whereas Ryzen's top end quads don't look any cheaper or faster than a 7600K. So anyone spending like 300-350 pounds on a 7600K and board that is pretty much what a 1500X Ryzen quad core will cost anyway without being particularly faster. But if you bought a low end Intel 6 core and a decent X99 board then you probably spent at least 650 pounds. The Ryzen 1600 and a good board will be like 400 quid and at least as fast. 7600K owners can feel fine for what they paid, Intel 6 core owners however.... |
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@alvar89 | 23 March 17 |
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The worst part of ryzen seems to be the latency between core sets that propably drags the gaming performance down. Rumors say the 4 core will be 2+2 also so that might suffer also.
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@john_163 | 23 March 17 |
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Asus x370 Mobo at 13,000 rupees  hopefully the price of Ryzen 1700X be decent..
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@norega | 23 March 17 |
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I was looking on Hot Uk deals the other night and I couldn't believe it . Spartan was in the rizen thread trolling like he is here .
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