The system is so much more capable though its ddr5 thats holding it back the timings are just pure crap at the moment and dd4 boards with high end ram out performing the fastest ddr5 in a lot of benchmark scores . Hopefully see some better ddr5 soon as even the best kits the timings are junk

The ddr4 choices i had were poor. The stuff that would match my cl32 6400 cost the same. Dont know why the 4000 plus mhz kits are that expensive. Did get my ddr5 for a good price atleast compared to what they usually cost. To beat the top tier ddr4 you need the 8000mhz modules in most things. Weird thing is ray traced games prefer ddr5 over 4. One of the only things the gap extended. Will get tighter timings in a year or two i hope. Until then atleast we have the ddr5 platform and can always upgrade the ram. Ddr4 is a dead end.

the extra e cores are kind of useless on the 13700k. i was getting a 250w draw with all core 5.4ghz and 1.3v. The e cores must be the reason its pulling more wattage than your 12700k. At 4.9ghz it does only pull 170w. The reason my current sh*t cooling is doing well.

Ddr5 timings even on the fastest kits is no match for mature ddr4 . I will be looking into getting better memory as I cant seem to clock it any higher and the timings are absolute crap

13th gen does better with ram they say. Might be hitting the limits.

Disabling the e cores brings down power draw massively but Im not bothered as the system will be used for gaming only and nothing I play at present will push it that hard . Cancelled the 13700k and ordered my Mac studio this morning after seeing the ridiculous price of 4070 . Probably be my last ever build as Im not prepared to py these silly prices anymore ,Ill just stick with this build as king as possible and stick to console gaming in the future its just got totally out of hand

Was keen on paying around 700eur for a 3080 2 years ago. After all the bs i ended up getting a used 3080 for 600 2 years later. It was bought for mining but never did any because of a failed solar project. I will not overpay gpus that is my limit. Next one will be used also. Even my previous 1080ti was used. This is the only way to get a good gpu for a decent price.

Tried the e cores off option but it sucks. The system takes alot less power and idle temps are down with them enabled. They do help with windows crap on the background while gaming too.

My whole pc upgrade including the 3080 cost me as much as a rtx 4090 is going for. That is absurd.

What are all these big specs required for. Is it for running gaming or video editing etc.

I think the most I've ever noticed the system using was about 10/11 GB
I wasn't doing any special. Perhaps using some office apps and it was updating.

I don't do gaming !
I'd rather sh*g my wife than Buck Rogers.

Mostly gaming. Like to tinker with clocks also thats why i get a overclockable setup usually. They last longer too in terms of performance. I remember when i bought my first i7 and ppl were saying all you need is a i5. In the later years i could still run certain games smoother thanks to the hyperthreading it had over an i5.

You can do both sh*g and game tho Its not like one cancels out the other.

For me gaming ,video / photo editing and 3d modelling the later which is extremely demanding on any system and the reason I was going to upgrade . But rather than spend 2k on a graphics card I have bought a Mac studio which is insanely fast and uses a fraction of the power and has a better resale value in the future .

Installed the thermalright contact frame today. Did tests before and after. It did drop a few degrees but also for some reason it saw an oppurtunity to boost up somewhere. It did also bring up the score 500p in cb23 going in loops. It is a consistent 500p and it uses a few less watts also in getting it. Same settings but still some variety. Overall the core temps are much more consistent now than before. All the e cores run basically the same temp also. Easier on those because there more grammed together. Seems like it was a worthwhile investment especially because the thermalright frame is alot cheaper than the grizzly one. Gamers nexus showed that the frames have the same outcome anyway.

The fan in my tablet is a nuisance at times. When it comes on during a Teams meeting they all think I'm blending stuff.

It would be handy to not have to resort to using a headset.

Thats what you get for wanting a computer in a slim form factor. I avoid anything that is low powered and has no proper cooling. Just a good smarphone on the go and a desktop at home.

experimented with there thermal paste also that they shipped with it. Its the thermalright tf7. Tried the deepcool paste that came with the cooler and also my arctic mx4. all have the same temps to my suprise. maybe my mx 4 is too old have it for 5 years in the drawer. does work all the time tho.

It has to be a windows PC for work. The tablets ok and has i5 n 8gb ram, its just when the fan kicks in. I shall just keep the headset in the backpack and forget about teams using built-in mic.

Maybe you can hook up a external mic only to get away from the sound vibrating in thru the chassi?

Got the arctic freezer II 420 today. Got my temps down another 10c. Plus it takes the heat away from other components bringing down ram, gpu, vrm and the nvme temps. Now i can get all core 5.5ghz even with the e cores enabled and still wont thermal throttle in cb23. Got a 31300p score also. Dialed in a 200w power limit and set it to 5.2ghz all core for daily use. Dont need the maximum just a few notches below is good enough. Dont see the temps go over 76c on this low clocks. Would hit 80c with 5.3ghz all core. That would be fine also tho.