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@dan27notts | 9 May 18 |
It is a good idea but it needs to stop wasting money
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@3mel | 9 May 18 |
it could be improved for sure but there isn't a better model out there for funding healthcare that I'm aware of. private healthcare thru your employers is the same difference in terms of your take home money with exception of having to deal with a for profit insurer who wants to pay out as little as possible. fu*k that. |
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@bambi99 | 9 May 18 |
@ piggle - 9.05.18 - 10:47pm The astonishing thing is that it's available for pennies and over the counter in various other countries. EU included And Cuba... Go figure |
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@bambi99 | 9 May 18 |
@ 3mel - 9.05.18 - 11:13pm it could be improved for sure but there isn't a better model out there for funding healthcare that I'm aware of. private healthcare thru your employers is the same difference in terms of your take home money with exception of having to deal with a for profit insurer who wants to pay out as little as possible. fu*k that. Seconded |
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@ogdenz | 9 May 18 |
@ pennine1 - 9.05.18 - 10:52pm Make the NHS for British born people only. You wouldn't refuse treatment from a foreign born doctor or nurse would you? |
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@deusexmachina | 10 May 18 |
Good maths, that man.
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@bozzalad | 10 May 18 |
@ pennine1 - 10.05.18 - 05:30am Health tourism costs the NHS tens of millions a year. Hundreds of millions at least |
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@viner | 10 May 18 |
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The USA has private healthcare yet the government still spends more per head than the UK government. The total cost of private healthcare is nearly double what it is here yet life expectancy is nearly three years lower with 28 million having no healthcare cover at all.
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@kimjongl | 10 May 18 |
Socialized healthcare should have an opt out choice.
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@kimjongl | 10 May 18 |
That's one thing, but it will always have the inherent inefficiencies of any single payer system.
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@eyesore | 10 May 18 |
@ mikeymk - 9.05.18 - 08:42pm Yes. That's ![]() So instead of paying for a massively bloated, abused and corrupted system i could spend even more of my money looking after myself instead. ![]() I don't know the prices are in the UK but here my partners private health insurance was E2400 last year |
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@kimjongl | 10 May 18 |
@ slwnoris - 10.05.18 - 08:46am One thing I will say, the NHS gets ripped off by drug companies, how comes the supermarkets can get things like simple painkillers at penny prices, while the same drug companies charge the NHS a massive mark up in price for the same tablets, it can only be greed on the part of the drug companies or total stupidly on the part of buyers at the NHS. I don't know which it is but would like to know, also the drug companies know they have a guaranteed buyer with the NHS, so why not give the NHS a discount for bulk buying contracts. Why should they give them a discount? As you said they are the only buyer and they're forced to buy. I'd also rip them off if I were selling them something they needed and I knew I had a guaranteed buyer. Once you deviate from the universal laws of supply and demand and enact a forced socialized system you get these inefficiencies. |
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@bozzalad | 10 May 18 |
@ slwnoris - 10.05.18 - 08:46am One thing I will say, the NHS gets ripped off by drug companies, how comes the supermarkets can get things like simple painkillers at penny prices, while the same drug companies charge the NHS a massive mark up in price for the same tablets, it can only be greed on the part of the drug companies or total stupidly on the part of buyers at the NHS. I don't know which it is but would like to know, also the drug companies know they have a guaranteed buyer with the NHS, so why not give the NHS a discount for bulk buying contracts. It isn't stupidity it is the old '' it is not my money so fk it'' attitude |
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@ogdenz | 10 May 18 |
How much would you rip off buyers for? As much as possible? Do you agree with Martin Shkreli's hike in drugs prices? @kim
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@kimjongl | 10 May 18 |
@ ogdenz - 10.05.18 - 09:39am How much would you rip off buyers for? As much as possible? Do you agree with Martin Shkreli's hike in drugs prices? @kim As much as I could get away with legally. Absolutely. |
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@bozzalad | 10 May 18 |
@ kimjongl - 10.05.18 - 09:27am Why should they give them a discount? As you said they are the only buyer and they're forced to buy. I'd also rip them off if I were selling them something they needed and I knew I had a guaranteed buyer. Once you deviate from the universal laws of supply and demand and enact a forced socialized system you get these inefficiencies. it isn't even that, there is a list that shows were one nhs authority pays 300 million a year more for ten products than the neighbouring authority, when this was pointed out the response was, from the total nhs budget it doesn't matter it is a drop in the ocean, that is just one authority n just ten products, as i said it is a ''fk it it is not my money'' attitude |
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@kimjongl | 10 May 18 |
True, you get this attitude from lazy, inept public sector workers. It should be made much more easy to fire them, no public sector unions, salaries of NHS buyers dependent on the savings they make the NHS. Enact these rules and you'll save the NHS billions overnight.
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@bozzalad | 10 May 18 |
NHS spends on 80 million a year on paracetamol prescriptions Over 20 million prescriptions a year issued for medicine that can be bought for as little as 19p in the supermarket This year 22 million prescriptions for paracetamol were written at a cost to tax payers of over 80 million pounds an average cost of 3.67 per prescription. This is a 13 per cent increase on last year when 73.5million was spent on the medicine, Government figures issued in a written answer have shown. Analysis of official figures show that at least 85 million prescriptions for the mild painkiller have been issued since 2010 despite the fact that supermarkets and pharmacies across the country offer the medicine for a matter of pennies. Analysis of Government figures reveals the cost of paracetamol prescriptions has been steadily rising over the last five years with the Government spending at least 282million over the course of this parliament prescribing the medicine. Supermarkets Asda and Aldi sell 16 500g paracetamol caplets for 19p and Boots the chemist offer 16 tablets for 25p. Meanwhile Tesco sells packets for 23p and Sainsburys for 30p. what a fkn waste |
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@bozzalad | 10 May 18 |
@ kimjongl - 10.05.18 - 09:50am True, you get this attitude from lazy, inept public sector workers. It should be made much more easy to fire them, no public sector unions, salaries of NHS buyers dependent on the savings they make the NHS. Enact these rules and you'll save the NHS billions overnight. I'd sack anyone paying silly money for common / easily available products there is no excuse |
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@bozzalad | 10 May 18 |
@ slwnoris - 10.05.18 - 10:18am It's time the UK government of any political colour started to take a strong line with all drug companies be it branded, or generics drug makers, I also think they should be made to say how much public money has gone into research of a new high priced drugs, also the general public need to be told how charities like cancer research, spend money given to them, and how there research is sold on, as it seems the normal people in the street give money for research, but will see no benefit, because drug companies buy up this research use it to the make the drug, and price it so high that only the wealthiest people who can pay privately will benefit from the treatment of the new drug. simple fact of life, people are greedy n you can't trust anyone. and charities are mostly shyte these days anyway |
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