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Today's scenario: I'm in a convenience store buying munchies for work. A guy walks up to the meat fridge and starts putting meat products into a carrier bag. I thought to myself, ''what's this, supermarket sweep..?'' I take a couple of items from the fridge opposite, to stay stealthy, and proceeded to make an instant and automatic plan to stop his getaway. I browsed along the fridge, towards the entrance, and he made his way towards me. I stepped back, so he had to walk in front of me, then proceeded to block his path, forcing him to a stop against the fridge door. ''Where are you going with that, mate?'' I asked, quietly. ''I can't let you do that.'' At this point I wasn't sure how he'd react, but I got more than I expected. I was expecting action, and fast. What I got was a squirmy, resentful, protesting moan from him, asking why can't I let him do it? What am I talking about, etc... ![]() The manager crept up rapidly behind him and plucked the bag from his hand - he just let her. He didn't give a sh*t.. just continued his tirade at me, getting angrier. Preparing for a bang in the face, I positioned myself so he had the freedom to go for the door. I kept the items in my hand, but held them a bit higher, fully prepared to match any fists. By this time a couple of other customers gave their presence, he was loosely surrounded, and he fled - not without kicking some shelving in a rolling-tantrum on the way out. Obviously a smackhead having a hard day at the office, but I had to wonder on the rest of my journey to work... Did I do the right thing? Should I have just let him take it? I suppose I ask because he was so fkn shocked i stopped him.. So yeah, what would you have done? |
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@recurve16 | 8 December 19 |
Was he wearing a winter coat that still had a security tag on it by any chance ?
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@dodgey | 8 December 19 |
I would have ignored it and gone about my business, not my shop and not my problem.
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@mikeymk | 8 December 19 |
![]() Actually he had a near identical black Parker coat to me, also a black baseball cap like me, similar height, build and stubble, we looked so similar it's probably gonna be quite confusing for whoever watches the CCTV... |
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@funphy | 8 December 19 |
Are you sure it wasnt your reflection on the glass door? Cos Ive done that.
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@mikeymk | 8 December 19 |
It could almost have been! If it wasn't for his following tantrum..
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@mikeymk | 8 December 19 |
@ dodgey - 8.12.19 - 08:12pm I would have ignored it and gone about my business, not my shop and not my problem. You know, I do respect that. I reckon I'd have thought the same thing in a variety of similar situations. Certainly if it had been a bank! |
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@dodgey | 8 December 19 |
@ slwnoris - 8.12.19 - 08:31pm Did you know store security guards have no rights to stop and search your bags or arrest you, they only have the same rights as anyone that being citizens arrest. If they choose to use that then they need to have seen you stealing, they still need evidence of the theft. So if you are stopped and they want to search your bag and you have not taken anything just keep walking out, if they grab you, do not let them search your bag or you person. Dial 999 and ask the police to attend. Once they arrive let two police officers search your bags and person. When it proven you have not stolen from the shop, the police officers are duty bound to then charge the store owner and security guard of unlawful detainment and also common assault. And before you say this is incorrect, it's not, no one has the right to do any of the above, unless they can provide evidence to support citizens arrest, the only people who can do this is a police officer. Or you could just open your bag and show the security guard you haven't stolen anything instead of wasting police time and trying to be a smartass. |
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@dodgey | 8 December 19 |
@ mikeymk - 8.12.19 - 08:25pm You know, I do respect that. I reckon I'd have thought the same thing in a variety of similar situations. Certainly if it had been a bank! The only time I would step in is if someone is being attacked. |
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@9362 | 8 December 19 |
Well done mikey, definitely the right thing to do
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@stopgap | 8 December 19 |
Zero tolerance of smackrats is the only answer. You did the right thing.
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@stopgap | 8 December 19 |
I worked at Asda 20 years ago on the Home and Leisure dept. We got to know the local bagheads,and the ones we didn't know we usually clocked them by their pale and skinny and dopey look. The Romanians were a level up however,often would bring their kids in to do the thieving. They knew we couldn't treat kids the same,and even the police couldn't search them.
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@stopgap | 8 December 19 |
When we spotted a thief,the procedure was to radio customer services who would say CODE FIVE down the tannoy. Code five meant shoplifter. All available staff would then cover the exits and apprehend the thief (Thieves) and lead them to the security CCTV room. Mostly it would be smackheads and Roma,but occasionally it would be a little old lady,and you'd feel sorry for them and try not to involve the police if possible.
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@mikeymk | 8 December 19 |
He made it too easy to stop him. Pocketing stuff and I'd have been out of my depth, maybe just accidentally-on-purpose got in his way, with a little ''sorry mate'', to help the manager gain some ground. But he'd have been in a far better position. Taking an empty carrier bag and slinging packs and packs of chicken fillets, pork loins, burgers, skewers, etc into it... Like no mate, seriously, come on. |
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@crail | 8 December 19 |
Mikey you're a fu*king hero
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@mikeymk | 8 December 19 |
That's the impression a couple of customers gave me, and the manager thanked me - but she did point out that I shouldn't really have done so, and I was left feeling she was probably right.
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@3mel | 8 December 19 |
@ stopgap - 8.12.19 - 08:45pm When we spotted a thief,the procedure was to radio customer services who would say CODE FIVE down the tannoy. Code five meant shoplifter. All available staff would then cover the exits and apprehend the thief (Thieves) and lead them to the security CCTV room. Mostly it would be smackheads and Roma,but occasionally it would be a little old lady,and you'd feel sorry for them and try not to involve the police if possible. old ladies shop lifting... that's a heart breaker |
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@3mel | 8 December 19 |
@ mikeymk - 8.12.19 - 09:13pm That's the impression a couple of customers gave me, and the manager thanked me - but she did point out that I shouldn't really have done so, and I was left feeling she was probably right. that's probably from a liability angle though, if things went south the store couldn't back you. |
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@tazdevil | 8 December 19 |
I would have ignored it (unless it was my job) because supermarkets are big global chains that can afford to lose it, and if someone's stealing food - they probably can't afford to feed themselves (or their family) so I probably wouldn't have said anything. If it were a small person owned business, it would be a little different. Then I would have confronted them or maybe offered to pay for them. |
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@dodgey | 8 December 19 |
@ tazdevil - 8.12.19 - 09:30pm I would have ignored it (unless it was my job) because supermarkets are big global chains that can afford to lose it, and if someone's stealing food - they probably can't afford to feed themselves (or their family) so I probably wouldn't have said anything. If it were a small person owned business, it would be a little different. Then I would have confronted them or maybe offered to pay for them. Same as me, best to keep out of it but smackheads steal steaks to sell in pubs and on the street to pay for their drugs. |
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@3mel | 8 December 19 |
big stores budget for 10 percent stock loss to theft aka shrinkage
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