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A metal forge in space, producing unknown alloys and metals for various purposes, drawing resources from dead planets, orbiting other planets or perhaps the moon.. is it possible? |
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@jlh1182 | 26 January 21 |
The earth would be so beautiful if all that crap was gone..
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@deusexmachina | 26 January 21 |
No.
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@3mel | 26 January 21 |
you'd need vast amounts of oxygen and power to smelt metal in space. I used to work for a precious metals reclamation company. the stories I heard about furnaces suggest to me that's it's not something you'd wanna do in space where structures are fragile. |
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@jlh1182 | 26 January 21 |
I've considered even using robots being much closer to the sun using the heat and radiation and also using the atmosphere burn of a planet as part of the process.. some form of ion blaster?
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@jlh1182 | 26 January 21 |
Collect lots of materials into space and drop it into the atmosphere at particular gradient, while in the process an atmosphere will develop?
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@3mel | 26 January 21 |
the closest thing I've heard to any of this is asteroid / comet mining. there are enough minerals floating around the solar system to fill our needs for eons. one problem is that you'd destroy the value of say diamonds or gold by harvesting them, you'd spend more mining them than they'd eventually be worth. |
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@jlh1182 | 26 January 21 |
I think with this level of activity monetary value becomes a side issue, or will do in time to come.. if we're smart enough we can develop tech that will provide all that we require so long as we provide it with the materials if that makes sense.. when the greedy are no more amongst us..
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@obi_jon | 26 January 21 |
@ 3mel - 26.01.21 - 02:57pm the closest thing I've heard to any of this is asteroid / comet mining. there are enough minerals floating around the solar system to fill our needs for eons. one problem is that you'd destroy the value of say diamonds or gold by harvesting them, you'd spend more mining them than they'd eventually be worth. There were some ideas being floated about trying to 'capture' small asteroids by 'nudging' them into orbit around the moon, using small spacecraft to attach either rocket thrusters or plant explosives on them. The theory being that it would be much easier to mine and retrieve the valuable materials in a steady predictable orbit then it would whilst still whizzing through space at who knows what km/sec. It all sounded a bit too fanciful to me though. |
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@obi_jon | 26 January 21 |
@ jlh1182 - 26.01.21 - 02:26pm A metal forge in space, producing unknown alloys and metals for various purposes, drawing resources from dead planets, orbiting other planets or perhaps the moon.. is it possible? In the purely theoretical it would possible. Essentially that is what all stars are. But as it's not yet(or ever likely to be, if we're brutally honest) possible for us to build a Dyson Sphere around the sun, then no it's not. |
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@jlh1182 | 26 January 21 |
If there was enough material in the asteroids to provide the resources I would probably go with that first obi_jon.. I have my eye on materials like titanium or something stronger we don't know of yet, and more of It we could ever produce here on earth..
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@jlh1182 | 26 January 21 |
How close in terms of orbit to the sun would robots need to be that would make metals melt? It's all hypothetical lol
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@dan27notts | 26 January 21 |
@ jlh1182 - 26.01.21 - 03:44pm How close in terms of orbit to the sun would robots need to be that would make metals melt? It's all hypothetical lol 1 mile |
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@jlh1182 | 26 January 21 |
Jus checked it would need to be closer than the planet mercury ![]() |
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@jlh1182 | 26 January 21 |
But!!......
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@jlh1182 | 26 January 21 |
The temperature of atmosphere entry burn is around 1.649c.. making this head towards the idea of a space 'drop' forge.. however I'm not comfortable with doing this on earth unless it somehow burned air pollution in the process..
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@3mel | 26 January 21 |
@ jlh1182 - 26.01.21 - 03:41pm If there was enough material in the asteroids to provide the resources I would probably go with that first obi_jon.. I have my eye on materials like titanium or something stronger we don't know of yet, and more of It we could ever produce here on earth.. we'd need Obi to weigh in on this maybe but I'm not to sure there are elements as yet undiscovered out there. |
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@shadow27 | 26 January 21 |
It's thought there may be certain very rare elements that will be found to be more abundant around binary systems etc. Conversely there could be elements found here which are rare elsewhere.. it's interesting to think about.
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@shadow27 | 26 January 21 |
@ 3mel - 26.01.21 - 04:16pm we'd need Obi to weigh in on this maybe but I'm not to sure there are elements as yet undiscovered out there. We are finding them by smashing atoms together.. as they get heavier they're increasingly unstable. Then there are ''Islands of Stability'' further up that scale.. this was all hypothetical years ago. |
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@3mel | 26 January 21 |
new subatomic particles yeah, but new elements for the periodic table ?
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@shadow27 | 26 January 21 |
@ 3mel - 26.01.21 - 05:10pm new subatomic particles yeah, but new elements for the periodic table ? ''Undiscovered'' meaning we haven't seen them in nature as yet, they have only been predicted. |
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