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@ogdenz | 23 September 19 |
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Yes as they will be allowed to vote again if the country gets a second referrendom.
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@tranie | 23 September 19 |
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@ mikeymk - 23.09.19 - 03:25pm Exactly. All bollocks. Failure - Tories Failure - Labour Failure - Liberal Democrats What we, the people, have here is not a fight against Thatcherism or Communism or what TAF ever, it's a fight for our democratic control of the nation. 
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@wakeup4 | 23 September 19 |
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So labour wanna abolish private schools and seize their assets  proper communism what next your home?
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@9362 | 23 September 19 |
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@ ogdenz - 23.09.19 - 12:51am The last official count of civilian deaths 're Dresden was taken in 2010,the figure was said to be 22,700 innocent civilians. Women and children many amongst them. Do you know that these people voted for the N.a.,zi's? Most of them will have done. Some of them will have got houses where previous Jewish owners would have been removed. |
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@tranie | 23 September 19 |
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@ 9362 - 23.09.19 - 05:10pm Most of them will have done. Some of them will have got houses where previous Jewish owners would have been removed. i believe the germans, as were the japanese, and all the other german allies. were purosecuted for thier war crimes, after the war. Every one from high ranking officials to collaborators were tried and punished. As victors get to write thier side of things into history. Winners didnt comit war crimes, they were strategic targets. |
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@9362 | 23 September 19 |
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@ tranie - 23.09.19 - 05:22pm i believe the germans, as were the japanese, and all the other german allies. were purosecuted for thier war crimes, after the war. Every one from high ranking officials to collaborators were tried and punished. As victors get to write thier side of things into history. Winners didnt comit war crimes, they were strategic targets. But this is before the war. They knew bad things were happening to the Jewish people. Most of them voted for and still supported the regime. Why should those people be considered innocent? Also think it's using rose coloured spectacles in looking back at these events. Easy to say it's wrong many decades after |
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@newt182 | 23 September 19 |
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@ wakeup4 - 23.09.19 - 04:56pm So labour wanna abolish private schools and seize their assets proper communism what next your home?Didn't think you would be the globalist supporting type |
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@ogdenz | 23 September 19 |
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@ 9362 - 23.09.19 - 05:56pm But this is before the war. They knew bad things were happening to the Jewish people. Most of them voted for and still supported the regime. Why should those people be considered innocent? Also think it's using rose coloured spectacles in looking back at these events. Easy to say it's wrong many decades after The number of votes for the NSDAP went up from 2 6 percent in May 1928 to 18.3 percent in Sept 30. It peaked in July 1932 at 37 4 percent. Later their support went down again in the November 1932 election which was the last true free election before the N azi's came to power. Doe's 37.4 percent sound like most of the German people to you? |
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@newt182 | 23 September 19 |
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@ mikeymk - 23.09.19 - 03:19pm Yeah, the ''We're in it together'' thing by the Tories is clearly bullshit, agreed. ''For the many, not the few.'' Would that include the majority when it comes to referendum voters? For the many, not the few has nothing to do with brexit. It's been very obvious its meaning is about inequality |
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@9362 | 23 September 19 |
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@ ogdenz - 23.09.19 - 08:07pm The number of votes for the NSDAP went up from 2 6 percent in May 1928 to 18.3 percent in Sept 30. It peaked in July 1932 at 37 4 percent. Later their support went down again in the November 1932 election which was the last true free election before the N azi's came to power. Doe's 37.4 percent sound like most of the German people to you? 43 per cent in the 1933 federal elections. When na.zi brutality had already been shown |
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@ogdenz | 24 September 19 |
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The last proper free elections. So 43 percent is most in your mind?
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@ogdenz | 24 September 19 |
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@ 9362 - 22.09.19 - 10:33pm German citizens cannot be considered innocent if they willingly voted for the na.zi's How did this logic stand up in your mind when I asked you whether those people who voted Conservative and knew that austerity measures have killed 1000s.and yet still vote conservative .are those voters to be considered innocent? |
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@ogdenz | 24 September 19 |
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@ ogdenz - 23.09.19 - 01:00am Using your logic do you agree with the following statement...British citizens cannot be considered innocent if they willingly voted Conservative ..for the deaths of 130,000 people due to austerity? Or how about the Labour voters. Should they be deemed innocent for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Using your presented logic that is. |
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@9362 | 24 September 19 |
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@ ogdenz - 24.09.19 - 12:09am How did this logic stand up in your mind when I asked you whether those people who voted Conservative and knew that austerity measures have killed 1000s.and yet still vote conservative .are those voters to be considered innocent? The Conservative party has not invaded other countries, sent opponents you concentration camps, forced Jews to wear yellow stars, destroyed their businesses, carried out kristelnacht, etc, etc, your comparison is ludicrous |
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@9362 | 24 September 19 |
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@ ogdenz - 24.09.19 - 12:13am Or how about the Labour voters. Should they be deemed innocent for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Using your presented logic that is. No, na.zi's were elected on a platform of fascist ideology. Tell me if the labour party was elected on a racist ideology? |
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@lugus | 24 September 19 |
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@ slwnoris - 23.09.19 - 09:09am And by the way, all wars are fort by the people, but started by the political classes, who never have to lift a finger to fight the war, or die for the war. The medieval rulers at least had the guts to lead and fight and die in the wars they started, which is something the likes of of thatcher, Blair and the dear old bushes never did. It's easy to start a war when you can hide behind a desk while other die. The same goes for the royal family, they join the armed forces knowing full well they will NEVER get there heads blown off. I understand your logic but it's wrong, both Churchill and even Hitler fought on the front lines in WW1, Prince Andrew flew Wessex's in 82 and Harry went to Afghan twice, Prince Phillip was in RN and fought in WW2, Mercer Stewart Davis Blunt Cleverly Duncan Smith all serving MPs who are Vets |
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@lugus | 24 September 19 |
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@ eyesore - 23.09.19 - 09:13am Andrew flew combat missions during the Falklands. I think Harry did as well in Afghanistan Andrew flew Wessex he did resup missions not combat |
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@d.boon | 24 September 19 |
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Anyone watching The Communist/Marxist/Trotsky Party conference? I'm not but Magic Grandpa wants to create a utopia society in The UK. That was tried in Venezuela and it failed....
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@3mel | 24 September 19 |
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an interesting idea on why some brexiteers are possibly keen to leave the EU with or without a deal before the year is out. http://youtu.be/mBPZxbO7OLM |
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@dan27notts | 24 September 19 |
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https The National Crime Agency has found no evidence of criminal offences after allegations against Leave.EU and its founder Arron Banks |
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