in ethnically vibrant areas were plentiful. This together with the shadows of some war hanging over the nation lead to the uprise of the beatniks, individuals who now didn't have to do much anything but sulk around all day in their easily affordable, alternative apartments among the immigrants. This lethal mix of Irish guilt and the undisputable coolness of the beatniks lead to a common activity

among the beatniks known as beatdig, involving a beatnik mellowing out on the streets, dictating who got ''it'', it being a personality trait favourable by the beatnik. As the story goes, one of the Irishmen, being accustomed to beetroot and potato, on the sight of porkjumped back in shock, proceeding to shun the one eating it. Upon witnessing this, a beatnik is said to have said ''that hop was

hip, jiggityjew'' and later reenacted this move involving a backwards jump with head lowered to shoulder level, leaning slightly forward and shaking the index finger (later evolving into fingersnapping) among the other beatniks, creating a new popular dance dubbed the Hip Hop Scibidydiddlydoo, the last part later being dropped out during the 60's, not because it sounded bad but

because the drug-fueled hippies had trouble remembering the whole name. This dance eventually faded into obscurity like Michael Jackson's skin during the 90's and the grunge boom but it has recently began to regain popularity among the straight edge beatniks countering the modern beatnik culture, sometimes referred to as emo, as they feel these individuals have misundeerstood the beatnik

philosophy and are now soiling its name. This dance is more than just a dance, it holds tremendous value in both sociopsychology and culture alike. When you see a young individual engaging in this dance, feel the pain of their struggle, find inspiration in it, Hip Hop, a people's search for their roots.

Super Story...... So is that how hip hop started?

Definitely.. Sure. The funny thing is that rap has made its way onto the gaza strip now.. But it's still so new to them that none of them know how to dance to it. So they just sit there being very still listening to people rapping about genocide and missiles.

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You failed to mention the croatian big band swing influence. I suspect you left it out because youve obviously have a 'beef' with croatians and/or big band swing. Racist and genreist

Well, I did get involved in a dispute with the horn section of the Brian Setzer Orchestra when I saw them live the Saturday before yesterday but the real reason I left it out is because overall the 70's and 80's were characterized by deep depression, making it fairly obvious that the that the further popularisation of the Hip Hop even as far away as in Croatia took its toll on the beatniks,

who were beginning to feel they were being robbed from their identity by the up and coming cool cats of swing. Confused and angered, a gang of beatniks went on to form a group known as The Trammps, the name presumably representing their image among the common population, maybe also trams that were a popular form of transportation in various cities. They eventually released the single Disco Inferno

wishing fiery death to the dominating disco phenomenon. Contra to the group's intention, the song became a smash hit, causing immense internal conflict in the members. They had been abandoned by the other beatniks, who felt that actually doing something about their problems was foreign to the beatnik lifestyle. Additionaly, the media portrayed the members as beatniks,

creating a false image of the beatnik. This further obscured the dying beatnik culture, when every disco nut and their mother identified with the false representation of beatniks and referred to themselves as such, fueling the death of true beatniksm. The dance lived on for a short period of time but like a great big national hangover, the grunge movement of the 90's eventually devoured what was

left of the Hip Hop. It is ironic that in recent times the false beatniksm known as emo has provoked the rebirth of true beatniksm among the new straight edge movement set to push aside emo to make way for the beatniks. We can only hope they succeed.

I'm tryin

what about scat man? and lou baygar

Gogela, you cant silence the truth

Scatman Jones was assasinated for symbolic purposes, due to his immense commercial success in Japan halting the by that point awaited honourable death of beatniksm at the gates of the new millenium. Lou Baygar was incapable of carrying on when he upon being high as a kyte realised that by switching over the B and G, his surname became Gaybar, causing him to become maybe permanently stumped.

Oh and I found out the etymology behind the name Trammps. I was partially right about the tram thing. It was a common practise among the beatniks to ride the trams around town all day long. They became well respected among the other passengers, who due to the beatniks being sharply dressed and influential on trams everywhere started referring to them as the MP's of the trams or tram MP's,

hence, particularly because the idea of the band was conceived where else but on a tram, the group named themselves the Trammps (Tram_MPs_)