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Capitalism is good , I mean its a real carrot and a stick win and reward system . Competition drives for better products and services and everything is growth and grow and grow .... Now the problem seems to be the divide between rich and the poor , all the winners produce lossers too and the strive for profit at all cost leaves the value of life and morals lost in the wake with companies more than happy too teat a illness or even create a illness too treat rather than actually cure a person . Is there anything that can be done too the systems in place or is it too far gone ? |
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@bobdylan | 12 May 17 |
Labour plan on taxing people on 80k plus a year . Taxing the rich is a must .... But what you earn a year doesn't really equate too a person been rich or not as odd as that sounds so that system means well but misses the mark |
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@nulife | 12 May 17 |
pi*s poor souless dog eaters ![]() |
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@bobdylan | 12 May 17 |
I think the problem we have is governments are restricted too countries where corporations are global . Also global corporation are not ran by a person . They are there own living thing , a immortal monster that demands profit and employees a board of members too feed it . |
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@obi_jon | 12 May 17 |
The Tories were planning to continue taxing people even after death ![]() ![]() |
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@bobdylan | 12 May 17 |
I think too stop these beasts and there tax avoidance is you make it that every corporation must have a soul member . So if Kodak , MacDonalds , Costa coffee want to operate in the UK , then they must set up a uk branch off the brand that must be owned by one person a uk citizen who must be the boss . He must be taxable of all profits and only after they are taxed on earnings can they then pay there corporation brand . I'd also tax large pools of money . Accounts sat will billions in them help nobody but the bank . So too stop pools of money reservoiring I'd put a cap on them too promote money been invested and put back into circulation |
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@tranie | 12 May 17 |
there is no cure for greed. Capitalisim is corporate greed on a massive scale.
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@bambi99 | 12 May 17 |
@ tranie - 12.05.17 - 12:15pm there is no cure for greed. Capitalisim is corporate greed on a massive scale. I agree .. Our capitalist system is supposed to be based on the Keynesian system which is described as 'drip down' capitalism ...only thing now is they're coming down and l*cking up the gravy Privatising the profitable parts of the nhs Privatising the railways (but we fund network rail to maintain the tracks) all the cream goes into the pockets of well to do and a lot abroad like to Holland for example ..funny how people moan about overseas aid but think that's ok .. I think scottish gas is Italian owned ![]() |
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@terrydactyl | 12 May 17 |
Just get rid of the monetary system altogether. Produce stuff and distribute it.
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@silverjx | 12 May 17 |
@ bambi99 - 12.05.17 - 04:13pm I agree .. Our capitalist system is supposed to be based on the Keynesian system which is described as 'drip down' capitalism ...only thing now is they're coming down and l*cking up the gravy Privatising the profitable parts of the nhs Privatising the railways (but we fund network rail to maintain the tracks) all the cream goes into the pockets of well to do and a lot abroad like to Holland for example ..funny how people moan about overseas aid but think that's ok .. I think scottish gas is Italian owned ![]() Read energy companies have caps on mainland Europe so they rise prices here to offset |
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@wakeup4 | 12 May 17 |
The only problem is with crony capitalists the monopoly men. The problem with the lefties is they wanna go after everyone who earns a quid more than the next bloke.
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@silverjx | 12 May 17 |
@ wakeup4 - 12.05.17 - 04:38pm The only problem is with crony capitalists the monopoly men. The problem with the lefties is they wanna go after everyone who earns a quid more than the next bloke. Well brexit has given capilism a uppercut and few people still don't realise it. Vultures have been picking at British businesses for decades, big businesses have been allowed to import non stop cheap Labour at the expense of local populous and firms have been given millions in eu grants to move |
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@newt182 | 12 May 17 |
@ silverjx - 12.05.17 - 04:57pm Well brexit has given capilism a uppercut and few people still don't realise it. Vultures have been picking at British businesses for decades, big businesses have been allowed to import non stop cheap Labour at the expense of local populous and firms have been given millions in eu grants to move The cheap labour is bullsh*t. ''firms have been given millions in eu grants to move'' It isn't allowed under EU rules, to give firms grants to relocate to other member states. So I would assume there were underhand tactics going on and it was curbed. But guess what happens when the UK is no longer a member state and not covered under those rules. Number 1 priority in business? Profit. Will x company make more profit by relocating to Eastern Europe? Yes, much more profit. Decision made. Plus no import tariffs. |
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@bozzalad | 12 May 17 |
@ silverjx - 12.05.17 - 04:57pm Well brexit has given capilism a uppercut and few people still don't realise it. Vultures have been picking at British businesses for decades, big businesses have been allowed to import non stop cheap Labour at the expense of local populous and firms have been given millions in eu grants to move yup, do you remember that remain politician saying wages would rise if we left the eu, like that is a bad thing.....then all those employing immigrants way below minimum wage or not even advertising jobs in the uk |
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@silverjx | 12 May 17 |
@ newt182 - 12.05.17 - 05:14pm The cheap labour is bullsh*t. ''firms have been given millions in eu grants to move'' It isn't allowed under EU rules, to give firms grants to relocate to other member states. So I would assume there were underhand tactics going on and it was curbed. But guess what happens when the UK is no longer a member state and not covered under those rules. Number 1 priority in business? Profit. Will x company make more profit by relocating to Eastern Europe? Yes, much more profit. Decision made. Plus no import tariffs. No it's not. Even a business minister had admiitted wages would rise if immigration was cut. Also know the landworkers and factory workers was on good money pre unlimited immigration. I should know I did a couple of summers in both just before I was due to go back to study and year after. Piece workers could earn a lot more then the nmw pays and more then agencies/gangers provide now. Same with other trades.. no it's not bs because it was the eu who paid them to relocate. They've done the same in France now with whirlpool, which is going to Poland. One) nobody knows if any firms will move after brexit and if we have low rates they will stay . two) we buy more off them then export to them. We dont know what tarriffs and they will lose out with tarriffs. The americans have warned them againts been agressive with trade and we have the whole world to trade with |
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@say.what | 12 May 17 |
@ silverjx - 12.05.17 - 04:57pm Well brexit has given capilism a uppercut and few people still don't realise it. Vultures have been picking at British businesses for decades, big businesses have been allowed to import non stop cheap Labour at the expense of local populous and firms have been given millions in eu grants to move Spot on, you only have to look at unemployment levels throughout the eu zone to see what is happening to the working class, and we are paying for that |
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@mikeymk | 12 May 17 |
It's all very well. Moaning about greedy people. Rich people. People who seem to get away with all sorts. Tax avoiders. People who get so drunk on success they seem to lose reality. Most people who have lost the plot are the poor. Hypocrites. They still want nice things, and they want them for less effort, but they begrudge those who make it all possible. Oh we could do it ourselves.. really? Go on then. You don't know stress. You don't know risk. You don't know what it takes to prove that 40,000 people's jobs are safe in your hands. You could create that? Go on then. Oh no, because you didn't amount to that. You can't. I saw people who were too good for their schools. I've seen people dedicated to their wotk, to a level life is too short for. But they went for it, so they were successful. The masses are fkn wreckless. The majority of people living on a level they accepted, because they just looked to jump on other people's work and ideas, then moan they're not breaking moulds... Anyone who wants to sacrifice barrier-less opportunity for limited uniformity is, frankly, mentally ill. Losers. |
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@mok214 | 12 May 17 |
For you people wanting socialism I think you need to closely look at what is happening in Venezuela.
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@3mel | 12 May 17 |
it's been normal to some people for quite a while to topple the regime of a country all so that profits could be improved. how fu*ked up do you need to be to be OK with that and the death and suffering that's follows ? it's curing man that's the issue. |
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@3mel | 12 May 17 |
@ mok214 - 12.05.17 - 06:30pm For you people wanting socialism I think you need to closely look at what is happening in Venezuela. while you're at it look at the Scandinavian countries with their massively high tax rates and happy populace. |
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@newt182 | 12 May 17 |
@ mikeymk - 12.05.17 - 06:28pm It's all very well. Moaning about greedy people. Rich people. People who seem to get away with all sorts. Tax avoiders. People who get so drunk on success they seem to lose reality. Most people who have lost the plot are the poor. Hypocrites. They still want nice things, and they want them for less effort, but they begrudge those who make it all possible. Oh we could do it ourselves.. really? Go on then. You don't know stress. You don't know risk. You don't know what it takes to prove that 40,000 people's jobs are safe in your hands. You could create that? Go on then. Oh no, because you didn't amount to that. You can't. I saw people who were too good for their schools. I've seen people dedicated to their wotk, to a level life is too short for. But they went for it, so they were successful. The masses are fkn wreckless. The majority of people living on a level they accepted, because they just looked to jump on other people's work and ideas, then moan they're not breaking moulds... Anyone who wants to sacrifice barrier-less opportunity for limited uniformity is, frankly, mentally ill. Losers. These rich people do not have a born right to be rich. It is us, the average person who allows them to be rich and participates in the system and the way it works. We are the ones working hard for them to have their money, not them. If we aren't compensated to a level we deem fair we would just refuse to take part in the system and their wealth would suddenly become worthless. That is why inequality is such a big issue now. There was even a documentary a few years ago where the rich said they were scared about the inequality gap, for the reasons I have said above. End of the day. They are rich as long as the wheels keep turning. If they stop they are as broke as anyone else. |
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