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@3mel | 1 October 20 | |
@ kimjongl - 1.10.20 - 12:50pm Politicians who don't understand how taxes work and who also moralize about tax in order to dupe their voters isn't anything new. These are the same legislatures who write the same tax laws. The EU can examine whatever they want and parliamentary committees can bleat all they want into the wind, if those companies haven't broken the law and simply avoided tax there's nothing they can do other than amend the law and get specific about what they want to change, not just say 'tax the billionaires' to appease their ignorant base. politicians who don't understand how taxes work... the same legislatures who write the same tax laws. this had nothing to do with appealing to voters, no press conferences were called to grandstand positions. we only know about it because reporters covered it. I've yet to here any European government say tax the billionaires. the points that have been raised and hopefully do get addressed were more along the lines of companies relying on and utilising one countries infrastructure to generate profits and not contributing back into that economy. |
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@kimjongl | 1 October 20 | |
@ 3mel - 1.10.20 - 02:11pm politicians who don't understand how taxes work... the same legislatures who write the same tax laws. this had nothing to do with appealing to voters, no press conferences were called to grandstand positions. we only know about it because reporters covered it. I've yet to here any European government say tax the billionaires. the points that have been raised and hopefully do get addressed were more along the lines of companies relying on and utilising one countries infrastructure to generate profits and not contributing back into that economy. Those laws are written by accountants and lawyers, the politicians sign them. The point of bringing up their legislative authority is that they have the power to change them, it's complete pandering for them of all people to complain about tax laws. If those companies are doing it legally there's nothing the EU or any parliament can do other than amend their own laws. If they're not happy with what's going on they're essentially complaining about themselves. Should a company that uses a countries infrastructure and makes no taxable income pay tax? |
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@kimjongl | 1 October 20 | |
Bernie is famous for whining about billionaires, what comprehensive tax reform does he have in mind other than rambling about 'the wun puhsent.'
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@3mel | 1 October 20 | |
pandering requires people to pander. It's also a bit stupid to suggest you know the motivations of people who's names you don't even know. it is entirely legal for now to say I buy my amazon goods in Luxembourg, that doesn't mean it's entirely within the intent of tax regulations for that to happen. I agree the ability to change the system lays with legislatures, hopefully the disdain for ''aggressive tax avoidance'' grows and steps are taken. it's a shame that a system designed to help keep companies in business when times are rough for them can be finagled. |
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@kimjongl | 1 October 20 | |
The people who spout such stupidity like equality of outcome. Their motivations can only be ignorance or malice to promote such stupidity. If the tax laws are changed then they need to be mindful of not driving business away. There are plenty of countries who would appreciate businesses coming to them for the jobs and value they bring. |
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@3mel | 1 October 20 | |
except it'll just be the jobs
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@kimjongl | 1 October 20 | |
And the value they bring. Direct tax from them isn't the only form of value.
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@3mel | 1 October 20 | |
companies themselves would have to weigh up whether spending anew on logistics and then putting people out of work for the sake of tax avoidance was bad PR that could impact their sales.
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@kimjongl | 1 October 20 | |
The actual costs are definitely something to think about. The PR not so much, outside of social media outrage the average person doesn't care who they buy their stuff from as long as they get what they want for a good price. There will be no significant impact on sales from people researching the tax avoidance of companies they buy from because few people care. Even people who claim to care still buy from companies like Amazon. |
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@3mel | 1 October 20 | |
if amazon moved out of the UK to avoid tax and put thousands out of work to do so, nobody would need to do research to know about it, it would be headline news.
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