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It's been known since the very beginning that the angel of the LORD, Michael, the son of God is our Lord and savior jesus christ. who is described in proverbs as the first of Gods works who then was the craftsman at his side in creation. lets begin with origen There are certain creatures, rational and divine, which are called powers (spirit creatures, probably angels); and of these Christ was the highest and best and is called not only the wisdom of God but also His power. - ANF 10:321-322. |
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
now we see that origen says that he is the highest of the powers Angels we then can easily identify him as Michael the chief of all the Angels as daniel 10 calls him (the first of the chief princes( and the prince of israel also called (the great prince) in daniel 12 which shows him as christ delivering the people at the end. many bible scholars and bible encyclopedias have admitted atleast that jesus is called angel and Michael in the scripture.
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
here is daniel 12 where christ is called michael (And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation (even) to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book)
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
Here daniel 12:2 continues showing that this is the end and that Michael here does indeed represent christ in the very end it says (And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame (and) everlasting contempt. )this scripture is compared with others that without doubt prove that jesus is Michael but first lets see what the smith bible dictionary says The International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia:The earlier Protestant scholars usually identified Michael with the preincarnate Christ, finding support for their view, not only in the jux
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@mab21 | 6 January 12 |
Jesus is Jesus and Archangel Michael is Archangel Michael. Jesus is the Son of God so Jesus is God born of Virgin Mary and Michael is an angel, creation of God. Jesus is Messiah, sometimes called Ellijah 'The Saviour, Son of God' while Michael the Archangel was s e n t by God to defend the people of Israel and his name means 'Nobody is like God. There is no way Jesus and Michael are the same thing. ![]() |
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
excuse my typo but lets get that reference again the international standard bible encyclopedia: The earlier Protestant scholars usually identified Michael with the preincarnate Christ, finding support for their view, not only in the juxtaposition of the child and the archangel in Rev. 12, but also in the attributes ascribed to him in Daniel vol. 3, p. 2048, Eerdmans Publishing, 1984 printing.
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
Michael is the Son of God in the book of thess chapterv 4 verse 16 says the Lord himself shall decend from heaven with a loud command WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL and with the trump of God and the dead in christ shall rise first) when you compare this with what jesus said that the dead will hear the voice of the son of God then come out of their graves, then we know that the archangel is the son of God.
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: )
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@mab21 | 6 January 12 |
that's some new theory of Christ. i wonder how many users will confirm it. just because Jesus is named Michael 1nce or twice in the Bilble, although I never heart such a thing, doesen't mean He is the Archangel. The fact that Michael was set by God the ruler of angels doesen't make Him THE son of God. you're confusing them. Some prophets in the OT were thought to be Messiah by the people of those times until Godly signs told them they were not. so? there is no way i would ever believe you.
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, Jhn 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of d*mnation.
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
(The 1599 Geneva Study Bible: Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: 14 Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels (14) Christ is the Prince of angels and head of the Church, who bears that iron rod.) this is from the geneva study bible which predates king james bible
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@mab21 | 6 January 12 |
When Virgin Mary was announced by Archangel Gabriel she was told she will be the mother of The Son of God, The Messiah, named Christ. she wasn't told she will born an Arcangel.
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
in daniel 12:1-3 we find michael standing against the lawless one this is do doubt christ as is described in 2 thess here 2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
gabriel is never called archangel stop interpolating there is only one archangel arch means chief and that is michael who was given the name jesus. also he is the son of God as i showed you from thess 4:16 and John 5
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
the context of 2 thess is this 2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and (by) our gathering together unto him, ) the second coming of christ and here the lawless one is to do this (2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God ) there in daniel it say michael stands yet here in 2 thess it says OUR LORD JESUS.
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
compare Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done
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@mab21 | 6 January 12 |
Gabriel, never Archangel ![]() |
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@mab21 | 6 January 12 |
anyway i speek to a wall as you do as concerning me, so have fun ![]() |
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
compare Dan 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
lol you cant provide one single scripture where gabriel is called archangel so you better leave now compare Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
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@rev18one | 6 January 12 |
ill be back to finish this
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