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1 John 5:7-8a as it appears in KJV is highly disputed, to the extent that many contemporary versions omit it or at least qualify it with a footnote indicating its very likely forgery. |
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@purest1 | 2 October 12 | |
''For there are three that bear record in heaven (the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth) , the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. The brackets being the disputed part.
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@purest1 | 2 October 12 | |
What is your stance on the comma, for or against and why? A general overview can be read on wikipedia http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_Johanneum
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@banjo | 2 October 12 | |
are you for real? () ??//
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@purest1 | 2 October 12 | |
What's up banjo?
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@purest1 | 2 October 12 | |
.........wow, this place is dying....
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@3696 | 2 October 12 | |
@ purest1 - 2.10.12 - 08:16am ''For there are three that bear record in heaven (the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth) , the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. The brackets being the disputed part. Without a spirit, ud be dead. Without water, ud be dead. Without blood, ud be dead. Your body needs these 3 elements to function, yet u are One person. |
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@purest1 | 2 October 12 | |
I get that @3696. The disputed text is the one saying ''the father, the word and the Holy Ghost and these three are one'', which, if authentic would seem to validate the trinity. Claims are that the weight of manuscript evidence shows it to be a later interpolation which wasn't present in the autograph of the gospel itself.
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@purest1 | 2 October 12 | |
My question is whether you accept it as authentic or forgery and why. The weight of evidence against it has been so heavy that NIV and other versions have already expunged it from the bible. I know there's an informal KJV-only movement which considers KJV an inspired translation. How will such a Christian argue for the retention of the comma?
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@smohamed | 2 October 12 | |
interesting topic purest
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@smohamed | 2 October 12 | |
and it seems that there is a battle between the versions of the bible...
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