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@3mel | 9 May 21 | |
no Galaxy Note 21 to come, instead Samsung is aiming to move people up to the Galaxy Z Fold 3 with S Pen ?? http://www.techberg.tech/2021/05/samsung-galaxy-s21-fe-and-foldflip-3.html |
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@polo_011 | 10 May 21 | |
@ 3mel - 9.05.21 - 11:19pm no Galaxy Note 21 to come, instead Samsung is aiming to move people up to the Galaxy Z Fold 3 with S Pen ?? http://www.techberg.tech/2021/05/samsung-galaxy-s21-fe-and-foldflip-3.html Makes sense, Samsung have been working towards making the Z Fold their premier flagship device the way the Galaxy Note used to be up until the Note9 and then consolidate the Note and S into just the S with S Pen support which they have in S21 which explains why they did the Ultra versions. Im looking forward to that Z Fold with SPen, doubt Ill comeback to Samsung but if there is something that could bring me back its a foldable with SPen. |
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@3mel | 10 May 21 | |
have you heard of Fold users getting fractured screens along the hinge line ? the tech just isn't there yet to be making it their flag of flagships, let alone at twice the price. weirdly I think the FE might quietly support a pen, I saw someone dropped a YouTube link comparing 4 Samsung candybars for their pen performance. I'll have to dig that up and watch. |
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@3mel | 10 May 21 | |
ah, it's a third party pen that supports all android phones. |
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@polo_011 | 10 May 21 | |
@ 3mel - 10.05.21 - 03:19pm have you heard of Fold users getting fractured screens along the hinge line ? the tech just isn't there yet to be making it their flag of flagships, let alone at twice the price. weirdly I think the FE might quietly support a pen, I saw someone dropped a YouTube link comparing 4 Samsung candybars for their pen performance. I'll have to dig that up and watch. Yep, saw MrMobiles video about his Z Fold 2. The thing is what we are seeing is now a year old device, I have to say when you look at where the original Fold was versus the Fold 2 as well as Mate X/Xs vs Mate X2, in both situations theres a huge leap in durability and form. If not the Z Fold 3 then the 4 Samsung are definitely headed towards making them their premier flagships, at some point we should see more tech first appear on a Fold, with the minimal leaks of Z Fold 3 I think Samsung may have a nice surprise. Maybe the Z Fold 3 will limit Pen support to the outside hard glass screen? Or the tip will be super soft for the inner screen? Or they may have found a way to make the inner screen stronger. Who knows, Im impressed at how fast these Foldables are evolving though, 2019 Foldables look like 5 year old prototypes compared to the 2020 and 2021 successors |
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@3mel | 10 May 21 | |
pressure sensitivity for pen use ?? pens aside I think the best proof of concept device was that rolled up scroll type of expanding phone. it's not going to into production but it completely eliminates creases and spreads the burden across the whole screen. |
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@polo_011 | 10 May 21 | |
Samsung seem to have known that the Z Fold 2s would break like that though because the Z Fold 2 comes with Samsung VIP Care or whatever they call it. Samsung have thought this through very carefully, i am truly impressed by them, they assessed all possibilities and figured that they have a big enough following who would buy the devices and they knew the devices may fail quicker than regular smartphones, but the sort of people buying a Z Fold 2 are not your regular customer, its people we call Innovators in Marketing, this is a small segment of people who simply buy stuff for the novelty of having the latest and most cutting edge gadget that is non-mainstream, sort of people who would have bought the first run of Teslas and happily dealt with all of the issues that came with early Teslas. Those people dont care much about price, sell them the cool gadget and some warranty protection and they will sing the praises of the device for anything else above that such as VIP Care which makes them feel extra special. Innovators are probably the best way to run a Public Beta test of a device and that is essentially what they are doing, Samsung is gaining a lot from each Z Fold 2 that comes in broken as they can thoroughly assess how these screens age and degrade when given to users who are not in the know of how the thing is built. Often times when doing internal testing you tend to test for what you know and tend to have bias and overlook things the regular consumer would pick up.
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@polo_011 | 10 May 21 | |
@ 3mel - 10.05.21 - 08:44pm pressure sensitivity for pen use ?? pens aside I think the best proof of concept device was that rolled up scroll type of expanding phone. it's not going to into production but it completely eliminates creases and spreads the burden across the whole screen. Yeah rollable screens do seem to have less trade offs overall in terms of their aesthetic, it is very interesting which form each manufacturer has chosen to go to market with, Im guessing the rollable tech is still a bit of an issue in terms of longevity? And therefore manufacturers are not yet feeling fully brave about putting them out in the hands of customers, even LG gave it up, seems to indicate the research and development is still some way off from being practical, which is a shame, the more form factors we would have had the better. What an exciting time though, I had the Mate Xs for a few months and in theory it was a great device, closed it was like a large screened smartphone and open it was like a tablet, but with all those components inside of it it was a heavy thing, it was almost 100g heavier than the Nokia E90. I have not played with a Z Fold 2 but I have played with the original Fold 5G and the Z Flip 5G and both those are also quite substantial devices in hand. I think the Z Fold 3 will be a major decider as to where Samsung go, I think even companies like Apple, Google and Microsoft are watching Samsung closely to assess it Foldables really are the way to go or if we are doomed to be stuck with Glass Slabs forever |
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@mikeymk | 10 June 21 | |
The complexity of a folding screen doesn't make much sense to me when it's so rarely needed - a second screen would be fine for things like the keypad or a second tab. I think the customer base is largely prepared to favour practical solutions over gimmickery, in the current climate. One of the main issues with modern phones, and one of the reasons some will find a compact foldable phone attractive, is damage by bending. Various models have suffered from this, with cracked screens, bent chassis, and fractured water resistance as a result of someone merely sitting down. So i think the next move should be in structural flexibility. Seems there's a market for a phone that could bend like a credit card, and it also seems the technology is there. |
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@3mel | 11 June 21 | |
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