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@3mel | 2 March 16 | |
@ 9362 - 1.03.16 - 10:39pm Well they don't agree with us,kicking up a right stink about it from what I've heard apple are happy to unlock this particular phone, the FBI wants them to handover means to unlock any new iPhone. |
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@ladibud | 2 March 16 | |
@ 9362 - 1.03.16 - 10:31pm Of the Muslim terrorist who killed 14 people in america a few months ago as the FBI have requested, or are they right to refuse? Yes and yes... Yes they should unlock this phone... And yes they are right to refuse what has actually been asked of them if u go into more detail. |
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@3mel | 2 March 16 | |
@ laity - 2.03.16 - 04:20am They've already done it in like 70 plus cases.. this one is a bit different tho because they're asking them to build a backdoor into the firmware, which will inevitably be abused and cost apple a lot of money.. apple are right to refuse, but they should have refused before too.. I also find it hard to believe that Apple have better nerds than the FBI/NSA etc.. so I'm not entirely convinced that this is needed.. it's a high level of encryption and apple will not have any of the keys. you could get another computer to do a brute force attack but you only get 10 goes to enter the create passcode before the device formats itself. |
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@mandain | 2 March 16 | |
You have to enable that 10 wrong then delete phone feature in settings, and most people don't bother with it
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@button | 2 March 16 | |
No no no. Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say. -Snowden 'One facet of this argument that goes largely undiscussed (and is something your friend may care about) is that it is bad for an imperfect government to be able to predict all crime. Some of the greatest steps forward in human history were only made possible by people being able to hide information from their government. If the church had access to Galileo's research journals and notes we could be hundreds of years behind in our scientific growth. If the government had unlimited access to the networks of civil dissidents blacks may have never fought off Jim Crow. If King George had perfect information America would never have been a country. There is no government on earth that is perfect, and therefore there is no government on earth that can act responsibly with unlimited access to information. A government is unlikely to be able to distinguish between a negative and positive disruption to it's social order and laws, and it therefore follows that an unlimited spying program can only hinder the next great social step forward. Don't fear the surveillance state because you might have something illegal, fear the surveillance state because it is a tremendous institutional barrier to meaningful societal progress.' /u/Kim_Jong-Skill |
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@greenaura | 2 March 16 | |
no they shouldnt unlock the phone. they said to unlock the phone would require them to develop software specifically to over-ride their security systems. so essentially, unlocking that one phone, would unlock all phones. it would jeopardise all of their customers security. the real question is, do you want a phone lock or not? do you want security or not? because in the end, if companies bend over to the law in regard to these things, there will be no such thing. but again, its a cliche now tht they take away your rights and freedoms in the pretext of 'security'.. they get people so scared that they will willingly give up these freedoms, as illustrated in this post by those of you who say its ok for apple to basically hand all your phones to the authorities, if it prevents terrorism. |
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@flossi | 2 March 16 | |
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I'm sitting on the fence because quite frankly my dear I don't give a damn!
I don't believe for one minute the fbi can't get into the said phone/account or whatever it is they wanna do. FFS they can communicate with aliens but can't conquer an apple lol |
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