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@wakeup4 | 8 August 19 | |
Of course they will promote it all day long they want rid of us.
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@mikeymk | 8 August 19 | |
@ crimson - 8.08.19 - 04:53pm I'm trying to think of examples... Like maybe what if the person is not really ill, like a wrongful diagnosis... That's the only 'if not' I can think of. You can't think of every possible scenario? Well of course you can't. That's why we have cautious boundaries. Laws are there to protect people. The innocent. The vulnerable. Others. Ourselves. Everyone, now and in the foreseeable future. I know people who tried to commit suicide. One jumped off a bridge, another a pylon. These days they're very happy to be alive. And so are the children they've had since. Sometimes driving at 50mph is safe. Sometimes 30mph on the same stretch of road is hazardous. So the law states 30mph maximum. Some 15 year olds are ready for sex. Some aren't. So it's illegal. It's not about people doing what they wanna do (they'll do it anyway). It's about protecting those who need protecting. There are all sorts of reasons someone would go for euthanasia. Mental illness has no bounds. They may feel they're in the way, their families would be better off without them, whatever. For financial payouts or otherwise. You can't cover all the reasons things have to be illegal, but they do. There are some very easy ways to commit suicide, even for quite severely disabled people. In fact, 1.4 percent of all deaths are by suicide. And yet none of them were arrested for their crime... The pros and cons of making it legal simply don't add up to making a change in the law the right thing to do. |
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@crimson | 9 August 19 | |
@ phallica - 8.08.19 - 07:38pm Noa Pothoven requested euthanisa but was denied, she killed herself by refusing to eat. Such a sad case in all honesty. Wow, what an awful way to die. And it is sad. But also dumb. |
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@crimson | 9 August 19 | |
@ cerberus611 - 8.08.19 - 09:34pm It's mental health, man. Many suicides are due to mental health issues. The more help that's available, the more lives saved. Many survivors are grateful that they lived through it all, becoming stronger and resilient. True, too. I was so annoyed about the initial article that such a young girl (17) died because nobody helped her get the right kind of therapy. She was still a child, in my opinion. And not only that, because of her mental health, she was unable to make rational decisions. She could have lived a decent life if someone just cared enough to help her properly. |
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@crimson | 9 August 19 | |
@ mikeymk - 8.08.19 - 10:04pm You can't think of every possible scenario? Well of course you can't. That's why we have cautious boundaries. Laws are there to protect people. The innocent. The vulnerable. Others. Ourselves. Everyone, now and in the foreseeable future. I know people who tried to commit suicide. One jumped off a bridge, another a pylon. These days they're very happy to be alive. And so are the children they've had since. Sometimes driving at 50mph is safe. Sometimes 30mph on the same stretch of road is hazardous. So the law states 30mph maximum. Some 15 year olds are ready for sex. Some aren't. So it's illegal. It's not about people doing what they wanna do (they'll do it anyway). It's about protecting those who need protecting. There are all sorts of reasons someone would go for euthanasia. Mental illness has no bounds. They may feel they're in the way, their families would be better off without them, whatever. For financial payouts or otherwise. You can't cover all the reasons things have to be illegal, but they do. There are some very easy ways to commit suicide, even for quite severely disabled people. In fact, 1.4 percent of all deaths are by suicide. And yet none of them were arrested for their crime... The pros and cons of making it legal simply don't add up to making a change in the law the right thing to do. This makes a lot of sense, especially for someone like me who struggle to see all of the implications. Is that the right word? Anyway, yes, scatterbrains like myself, who might also have mental health issues, shouldn't be allowed to make decisions like that. I fully agree with that. People like me, and other vulnerable people, definitely need laws to protect us. |
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@tazdevil | 9 August 19 | |
Um, I'm kinda against it. I don't think I could ever 'assist' someone kill themselves. If they want to do it, fine I don't want to be a part of it lol
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@jiggyxx | 10 August 19 | |
Having just watched my nan pass from Parkinsons with dementia, it felt very inhumane that she forgot how to sw*llow, so couldn't drink anything and slowly dehydrated to death.... she would not have been aware of this and was very much unconscious for the last week of her life, but it was truly horrific to watch her waste away before our eyes. I would have said yes for an assisted death for her in that circumstance. |
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@crimson | 11 August 19 | |
@ jiggyxx - 10.08.19 - 09:32pm Having just watched my nan pass from Parkinsons with dementia, it felt very inhumane that she forgot how to sw*llow, so couldn't drink anything and slowly dehydrated to death.... she would not have been aware of this and was very much unconscious for the last week of her life, but it was truly horrific to watch her waste away before our eyes. I would have said yes for an assisted death for her in that circumstance. I'm sorry for your loss. |
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@mandy74 | 4 September 19 | |
The NHS already do this. Its called drugging them up until they pass
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@mz.c | 4 September 19 | |
@ tazdevil - 9.08.19 - 10:30pm Um, I'm kinda against it. I don't think I could ever 'assist' someone kill themselves. If they want to do it, fine I don't want to be a part of it lol This. I don't think I could either. On the other side of it. I've watched a family member slowly dying. It's awful. You dont ever get that image out of your head. I'd like to choose when to die if I know I'm going to suffer but I'd not want my children to help me. |
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