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@9362 | 16 January 20 | |
@ slwnoris - 16.01.20 - 09:38am Correct.....look back to thatcher there you go, that's where it all started, the big flog off publicly owned services gas, electricity, water, telecoms , councils made to move services they provide to the private sector, housing, care homes for the elderly, upkeep of roads, the list goes on, Maggie started it, all the following prime minister carried on her great work, even what his name? You know that goon with the smile saying thing can only get better oh what is his name? Ted heath no....... Tony Blair that's the one, leader of new tory, oops ment labour. The next big thing will be kicking off 1st January 2021,there already working on it behind closed doors, and we will all be better off with what they are going to be doing...... ......... Woh slwnoris they nearly got you under there spell.......... Ment they will be better off with what they have planned, Jo public will be sc r ed again, you know why? No problem I will tell you... BECAUSE MOST OF THE PUBLIC LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT. The French people stood up to there government over pension age increase and you know what happened? There government backed down. The British are gutless and those in power know. Now off you go and do as you're told. Before Thatcher got into power... The winter of discontent... Endless strikes at British Leyland... Yes, things were great |
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@9362 | 16 January 20 | |
@ recurve16 - 16.01.20 - 03:55pm The only argument BoJo has against indyref 2 is that once upon a time wee Salmond said it was a once in a generation vote, so we MUST respect that and abide by it. What a lot of bullshiit, how many times have the Tories and other parties gone back in pledges and promises they've made in the past ? I don't know about you, but I lost count many moons ago. SNP MP Alex Neil is in the news today, saying exactly what Mel just said. We should just go ahead and do it without Westminsters permission, hopefully the more BoJo says no, the more Scots are willing to vote yes... Is there anyway you think the snp could mess it up? Is there anything they haven't done well? |
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@recurve16 | 16 January 20 | |
@ 9362 - 16.01.20 - 04:52pm Is there anyway you think the snp could mess it up? Is there anything they haven't done well? Oh yeah, there's always ways for them to mess up, after all they are politicians and human, so always a chance of a screw up or 2. I certainly don't kid myself they're perfect and I don't agree with every policy they have, but nothing says we must keep them in power if we get independence if they don't do a good job. We have our problems like England, on a smaller scale, we've done a lot to tackle things like under age drinking, binge drinking, knife crime, domestic violence etc. The SNP are working with 1 hand tied behind their backs, as well as opposition from Westminster, they have opposition from both Labour and the Tories in the Scottish parliament, so pretty much everything they do has restrictions of some kind. They are left wing, they do care about normal everyday people like us, they care about the NHS, crime, poverty, pollution etc and they are working on it the best they can, but like i say, being kept on a leash by Westminster, means they are limited... |
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@tranie | 16 January 20 | |
@ 9362 - 16.01.20 - 04:52pm Is there anyway you think the snp could mess it up? Is there anything they haven't done well? holding a an advisory referendum, is a risk ms sturgeon may not be willing to take. She has a lot to gain but everything to lose. If she won then boris wouldnt really have a choice but to give the scottish people a proper legal referendum, but if she loses or its a narrow win then, thats independence gone for the next 50 years at least. |
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@ogdenz | 16 January 20 | |
@ 9362 - 16.01.20 - 04:38pm Shame you didn't vote to Remain then So you admit and agree that Bwexit is and will continue to be an utter catastrophe for the nation? |
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@recurve16 | 16 January 20 | |
I have no time for neverendums, I accepted the outcome of indyref 1 and brexit. BUT things have changed, we have Tories ruling us AGAIN even though we never voted for them, we're being pulled out of the EU even though we've made it perfectly clear that we want to remain. I genuinely believe that support for independence has grown since indyref 1, partly because of what I just mentioned. I don't think an advisory referendum would have the same turnout or result as a proper referendum, I think for us to stand a decent chance, Sturgeon has to take the gloves off and come out fighting more aggressively than Salmond ever did. Wee Eck frustrated the fvck outta me during the referendum, virtually no aggression during tv debates and interviews, he was trying not to upset or insult anybody and it cost him/us dearly, hopefully Sturgeon has learned from his mistakes... |
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@9362 | 16 January 20 | |
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@ ogdenz - 16.01.20 - 06:07pm So you admit and agree that Bwexit is and will continue to be an utter catastrophe for the nation? Am sure your local college offers beginners English lessons, I think you need them |
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@9362 | 16 January 20 | |
@ tranie - 16.01.20 - 06:05pm holding a an advisory referendum, is a risk ms sturgeon may not be willing to take. She has a lot to gain but everything to lose. If she won then boris wouldnt really have a choice but to give the scottish people a proper legal referendum, but if she loses or its a narrow win then, thats independence gone for the next 50 years at least. A narrow win is still a win though. |
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@recurve16 | 16 January 20 | |
@ 9362 - 16.01.20 - 07:36pm Am sure your local college offers beginners English lessons, I think you need them |
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@ogdenz | 16 January 20 | |
@ 9362 - 16.01.20 - 07:36pm Am sure your local college offers beginners English lessons, I think you need them Bwexit. |
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