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@dodgey | 16 May 20 | |
@ dan27notts - 16.05.20 - 09:41am Like dodgey said, i think its ok if they are asking for little things here and there to help the company out and potentially save it. Obviously they shouldn't be asking you to do a full days/shift worth of work true, not going in but if a boss says to someone with a laptop to do some research, do a spreadsheet for them or just check emails and try and action some if they can then thats OK, if its either that or maybe lose your job at the end of it then I know that's what I'd do. |
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@dan27notts | 16 May 20 | |
@ 3mel - 16.05.20 - 09:34am I doubt you can legally, it'd be like receiving job seekers while working. I know a lad on furlough thats been working doing peoples garden's and driveways, mainly because he's bored. Should he be treated as a benefit cheat? |
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@obi_jon | 16 May 20 | |
@ dan27notts - 16.05.20 - 09:41am Like dodgey said, i think its ok if they are asking for little things here and there to help the company out and potentially save it. Obviously they shouldn't be asking you to do a full days/shift worth of work If they've furloughed someone, they shouldn't then be asking them to do any work. Only when they are paying you to do it themselves. |
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@dodgey | 16 May 20 | |
@ obi_jon - 16.05.20 - 09:47am If they've furloughed someone, they shouldn't then be asking them to do any work. Only when they are paying you to do it themselves. Yeah, maybe shouldn't but if its a choice between help out or lose your job after all this then I know what I'd do, and if I was a small business owner and asked 2 people to help out and one said yes and one said no and I needed to let someone go at the end of it because there wasn't enough business then I would be saying goodbye to the one who refused to help out . |
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@obi_jon | 16 May 20 | |
@ dan27notts - 16.05.20 - 09:46am I know a lad on furlough thats been working doing peoples garden's and driveways, mainly because he's bored. Should he be treated as a benefit cheat? That's not work being done for the employer who originally furloughed them. Not sure what the rules are regarding working for others whilst furloughed but that's a different issue to the one being discussed here. |
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@dan27notts | 16 May 20 | |
@ obi_jon - 16.05.20 - 09:47am If they've furloughed someone, they shouldn't then be asking them to do any work. Only when they are paying you to do it themselves. I think allowances should be made for common sense though. Lets say you're an estimator on furlough in your 3rd week and you get an email asking for a quote for a job, roughly an hours work. Here are the following 2 choices. 1. You ignore/refuse to do the quote because are on furlough, meaning you dont win the job and potentially keeping yourself and some of the lads on the tools on furlough longer if no other work comes in. 2. Do the quick bit of work, potentially win the job and now yourself and 2 fitters can go back to work next week? And before you say your company should pay you for that work, that would mean they'd have to pay you for the full 3 previous weeks as well which a lot of companies cant afford to do. |
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@3mel | 16 May 20 | |
@ dan27notts - 16.05.20 - 09:46am I know a lad on furlough thats been working doing peoples garden's and driveways, mainly because he's bored. Should he be treated as a benefit cheat? he either is or isn't. doesn't sound right to me but it's not something I'm gonna look up. |
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@obi_jon | 16 May 20 | |
@ dodgey - 16.05.20 - 09:52am Yeah, maybe shouldn't but if its a choice between help out or lose your job after all this then I know what I'd do, and if I was a small business owner and asked 2 people to help out and one said yes and one said no and I needed to let someone go at the end of it because there wasn't enough business then I would be saying goodbye to the one who refused to help out . You're missing the point. If your employer genuinely had to furlough you, it should have been because they didn't have ANY work for you to do. If they do have work for you to do, they shouldn't have been furloughing you in the first place and they shouldn't be asking the government to pay you to work for them(at a reduced rate) If they are asking you to work whilst furloughed they are simply in the wrong and are taking advantage of both you and the government scheme. To put it simply they're cunts and you should seriously ask yourself if you want to be working for people like them anyway. |
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@recurve16 | 16 May 20 | |
There will be plenty of bosses out there milking it. |
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@dodgey | 16 May 20 | |
@ obi_jon - 16.05.20 - 10:04am You're missing the point. If your employer genuinely had to furlough you, it should have been because they didn't have ANY work for you to do. If they do have work for you to do, they shouldn't have been furloughing you in the first place and they shouldn't be asking the government to pay you to work for them(at a reduced rate) If they are asking you to work whilst furloughed they are simply in the wrong and are taking advantage of both you and the government scheme. To put it simply they're cunts and you should seriously ask yourself if you want to be working for people like them anyway. No you are missing the point, I'm not saying do a full shift, I'm saying respond to a couple of emails and do some small tasks which could help towards getting new work which may help stop the company you are working for going under after all this. Needs must at a time like this. And I don't work for a company like this, I'm still earning fine, some of my work life has changed meaning I have to stay at home on call but I'm not furloughed. |
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