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@ogdenz | 22 September 21 | |
Minus the 70,000 truck drivers we no longer have. So no..not really a bonus.
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@tranie | 22 September 21 | |
The UK had their Covid vaccine order in 3 months before the Eu. The UK had vaccinated 2 million people before the Eu had vaccinated the first 1 seems like a decent head start to me.
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@3mel | 22 September 21 | |
@ 9362 - 22.09.21 - 09:04pm Increased wages for truck drivers by creating a driver shortage that raised haulage prices on businesses. |
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@tranie | 22 September 21 | |
It wasn't just Brexit that caused a driver shortage. Covid had a lot to do with it. Any European driver in this country before the cut off date would of had right to reside in the UK. Covid hit and these people decided to go home to be close to their family. Which I can't really blame them for tbh
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@3mel | 22 September 21 | |
@ tranie - 22.09.21 - 09:39pm It wasn't just Brexit that caused a driver shortage. Covid had a lot to do with it. Any European driver in this country before the cut off date would of had right to reside in the UK. Covid hit and these people decided to go home to be close to their family. Which I can't really blame them for tbh Prop can tell you more about it but it was something to do with their post brexit tax or employment status as drivers. new rules meant they were classified as self employed or something along those lines, between the way they were paid and taxes it didn't make sense to drive lorries here anymore. if it was just about covid there'd be an equal proportional loss of European and non European migrant workers across all sectors they worked in. |
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@tranie | 22 September 21 | |
@ 3mel - 22.09.21 - 09:46pm Prop can tell you more about it but it was something to do with their post brexit tax or employment status as drivers. new rules meant they were classified as self employed or something along those lines, between the way they were paid and taxes it didn't make sense to drive lorries here anymore. if it was just about covid there'd be an equal proportional loss of European and non European migrant workers across all sectors they worked in. So we get back to, it was eastern European drivers, working for shyte money, not paying UK taxes, that is the root of the problem ! As soon as they were asked to pay UK taxes they fkd off elsewhere ? Again I can't blame them, if they can get more working elsewhere then good luck to them. There were a lot of British drivers forced out of the industry, when the Europeans turned up and drove wages down. |
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@mikeymk | 22 September 21 | |
Watching all the landlords crying cos they crammed 10 polaks into 3-bed houses, now can't even get an honest family of 3 in there to cover their overheads.. yeah, that'll be why there's empty houses everywhere. Gonna take a while to repair the damage Blair and the EU did to Britain's infrastructure. I remember it all like it was yesterday.. |
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@3mel | 22 September 21 | |
they were paying UK taxes, the change meant they might not be as they weren't PAYE anymore. they were on low wages and they would've ended up taking home even less so they F'd off instead. heard something about drivers being paid for the run in total or hours driven, so all the time they also spent queued up at UK customs was also eating into the potential take home pay too. covid did slow down HGV driver testing though. don't know if it's h*t everywhere but I'm hearing prices in some supermarkets have gone up in the last few weeks, maybe that's a side effect of paying more to drivers. not a drop in Tesco's profit margin but an extra cost to their customers instead. |
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@deusexmachina | 22 September 21 | |
I know a driver who just turned down working for 40 quid an hour because he can get more from a different company. Yeah. . . prices are going up.
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@tranie | 22 September 21 | |
If the hgv industry had any sense they would do what the bus industry did 25 years ago, and go to Africa and import thousands of Africans, to keep the wages low. At one time the bus companys would pay a dual wage of a token amount in UK currency and also paid in cows and chickens in Africa to the drivers family. They would also offer free accomidation in the UK for the driver. The length some companys will go to, too pay shyte wages is staggering.
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