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@1clivey1 | 17 June 19 | |
we cant leave on 31st oct as the eu lot dont reform till day after?.......boris did well when mayor so they say cut the crime rate by half etc
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@lugus | 17 June 19 | |
Will be completely irrelevant Clivey if Robin Tilbrook is successful at the high court
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@bozzalad | 17 June 19 | |
@ slwnoris - 17.06.19 - 09:20am I hope he is right, let's hope we get a refund on the payments we have made into the European union since the date we were ment to have said bye bye European union, The nhs needs the injection of capital Boris Johnson promised, and had it plastered all over the Boris bus. The nhs needs sorting out before it gets a penny extra |
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@obi_jon | 17 June 19 | |
@ lugus - 17.06.19 - 08:58am Will be completely irrelevant Clivey if Robin Tilbrook is successful at the high court I wouldn't hold your breath on that one. You can read one of the barristers in the Miller high court case explaining why Tilbrook's case holds no legal merit here: http://endthechaos.co.uk/blog/the-tilbrook-case-is-about-polemical-and-not-legal-argument/ |
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@lugus | 17 June 19 | |
I've read conflicting arguments from ex Judges ex Barristers for and against this case so your not revealing anything new just regurgitating existing news
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@newt182 | 17 June 19 | |
@ bozzalad - 17.06.19 - 09:21am The nhs needs sorting out before it gets a penny extra Are you saying all the MPs who have held the role of Secretary of State for Health and Social Care have failed to do their job properly but you know how to fix the NHS? Or maybe the NHS has just been underfunded year after year. |
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@obi_jon | 17 June 19 | |
@ newt182 - 17.06.19 - 12:56pm Are you saying all the MPs who have held the role of Secretary of State for Health and Social Care have failed to do their job properly but you know how to fix the NHS? Or maybe the NHS has just been underfunded year after year. That and the fact that there are now so many NHS bureaucrats and middle managers draining resources with large salaries and (at the taxpayer's)expense accounts, whilst they bog the whole thing down with mountains of unnecessary red tape. |
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@newt182 | 17 June 19 | |
@ obi_jon - 17.06.19 - 01:22pm That and the fact that there are now so many NHS bureaucrats and middle managers draining resources with large salaries and (at the taxpayer's)expense accounts, whilst they bog the whole thing down with mountains of unnecessary red tape. They have had multiple restructures and I would be damn sure they use some kind of framework to manage, automate, cut costs etc... Like in IT where I work we use ITIL, with others. Recognising waste and removing it. If these things aren't being done then the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care has a lot to answer for. |
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@newt182 | 17 June 19 | |
I would ask anyone making these claims to substantiate them . Especially claims of unnecessary red tape. If it is unnecessary it can be removed, which would cut costs. So what red tape is in the way?
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@newt182 | 17 June 19 | |
http://www.england.nhs.uk/five-year-forward-view/next-steps-on-the-nhs-five-year-forward-view/funding-and-efficiency/ It looks like they do a lot to cut costs. Management costs http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/19/managers-400000-year-failing-nhs-authorities/ The tories have failed to sort this out |
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