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@jidat | |
read 1 Sam 28:11_15. wht abt ur opinion? read Mat 17:3. read Jude 9. |
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@jidat | 19 August 08 |
lets learn 2gather abt thz vers..
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@seastarr | 20 August 08 |
I think it is also important to look at Revelation 16:14 on this topic.
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@endtimes | 20 August 08 |
Its important to note that in this verses Saul was consulting a medium. We cannot see dead people's spirits, that is contractionary to Scripture. Spirits and souls doesnt dwell on the earth after death, but is immediately taken to heaven or hell. There is no place inbetween.
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@endtimes | 20 August 08 |
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@seastarr | 20 August 08 |
So basically any spirits that appear would in reality be a demon in disguise. And talking to or attempting to talk to a dead person opens the door to satan and his demons. As is pointed out in the scripture in Revelation.
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@festus36 | 20 August 08 |
Tank u seastarr and endtimes. U have ironed it all out. I agree with ur points. Biblically, I am sure there is no scriptural view supporting why we should see d spirit of d dead and there is no reason why God will want to show us the spirit of the dead.The only account showing the spirit of the dead was resurrection: when Jesus rose and the spirits of the patriarchs rose and showed themselves. Matth. 27:52-53. The reason 4 this I cant discuss here now. its a different issue.
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@jidat | 21 August 08 |
1 Sam 28.. remembr 1 Sam 15:26, And Samuel said 2 him, i wont return with u, 4 u hav rejected the word of the Lord, n the Lord has rejected u frm bein king over Israel. thz vers mean Sam n Lord wont meet Saul whteve. tht show fake Samuel, juz evil spirit.
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@jidat | 21 August 08 |
Mat 17:3 n Jud 9 is has conection, we need 2 open 1st at Jud 9: why archangel Michael argued the body of Moses? juz only peace of death body?? i dont thk so., i thk God send Michael 2 rise Moses! 4 evry thk he did 2 Israel, saw Him face 2 face, n lot of he did 4 God. tht mean Moses was rose frm death n meet Lord in heaven.
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@jidat | 21 August 08 |
other fact, Elijah neve die. 2 Kings 2:11. nw we try 2 read Mat 17:3,. And behold, thr appeared 2 thm Moses n Elijah, who kept talking with Him. thz vers shown Jesus was talk 2 'the person' of Moses n Elijah, nt spirit of thm. the 'real person'.
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@endtimes | 22 August 08 |
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@eclipse2 | 22 August 08 |
Amen ![]() ![]() |
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@drromana | 23 August 08 |
This is a very interesting topic. It has revealed a couple of things to me too. Thank You bro Jidat. God bless you.
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@jewely31 | 23 August 08 |
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@jewely31 | 23 August 08 |
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@jewely31 | 23 August 08 |
The revelation dat i learn here...we cn see or not dead ppols spirit wat matters most is dat... God is not d God of d dead but of d Living. Read Mark 12:26-27 thank u bro. Jidat 4 bringing up dis topic ![]() |
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@festus36 | 24 August 08 |
Tank u jidat 4 d topic. We all are still learning. D instances u mentioned concerning Moses is very peculiar: it was a divine purpose. Mind u, Elija is not yet a dead man. D appearance of angels to men was very common from Gen to revelation. But d appearance of d spirits of men who are, even still alive was not common, not to mention d dead.
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@festus36 | 24 August 08 |
D Moses instance and d spirits of d saints that appeared to men after resurrection of D Lord were d only cases of d spirits of d dead appearing to men and these have a divine backing. It is possible 4 this to happen, but we must check d underline purpose. I am of d opinion that there is no reason why in d present dispensation, God will want anyone to see d spirits of d dead.
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@festus36 | 24 August 08 |
In conclusion, we must not seek to see any appearance, be it that of angels or spirits of men alive or dead, if we do, Satan can take advantage of our ignorance and appear with his demons as angels of light. Just like jewelry said that God is d God of d living and not of d dead. If it pleases God to reveal anything to us, let him do so. And if anything is revealed, check d purpose. Tank u jidat and all who have given their opinions on this matter. May d Lord cont to grant us understanding.
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@seastarr | 24 August 08 |
Amen bro festus.
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