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ad252 - 15.12.10 - 02:32pm
HEY !! (amazed) I'M CALLING NASEEBI WRONG!! *
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irnbrux - 15.12.10 - 02:32pm
Shut up kek. Ur the biggest stirrer of hate in here. U n that huge wooden spoon of urs *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 02:32pm
oh ok as252. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 02:33pm
maybe u should shut up irnbrux, this got nothing to do wth u, n u wont understand even why God EXIST. *
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nirvaana - 15.12.10 - 02:34pm
haggis muncher *
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ad252 - 15.12.10 - 02:34pm
I'm not a spoon of wood. I am HUMAN @irnbrx (laughing) *
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nomnom - 15.12.10 - 02:35pm
Another muslim hatred inciting post? Who cares who is right or wrong? You will never ever know! *
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ad252 - 15.12.10 - 02:36pm
OH! ALLAH! GIVE EVERYONE TRUE GUIDANCE. (AMEEN). *
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nirvaana - 15.12.10 - 02:36pm
ad ya funny pal.. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 02:36pm
let me say here to the NASIBIS,,, to LOVE Ahlul Bayt is WAJIB, n that dont cause the Virtues of the First THREE Claiphs ok...so dont worry, n PLS DO Remember, today we are Muslim is becuz, we WON the Battle of HAQQ in Karbala when The Ahlul Bayt (Al-Hussain) rather give his HEAD than COMPROMISING wth the Devil (BAATIL). *
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irnbrux - 15.12.10 - 02:36pm
Got nothing to do with me coz am not muslim??? Lmfto grow up. U arent even a true muslim. A true muslim would not act like u do! N a supose u understand how god exists? *
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nirvaana - 15.12.10 - 02:37pm
..funny how christian had to take pi*s at muslims in every post..saddos..just shows their chracter *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 02:37pm
let me say here to the NASIBIS,,, to LOVE Ahlul Bayt is WAJIB, n that dont cause to DISCREDIT the Virtues of the First THREE Claiphs ok...so dont worry, n PLS DO Remember, today we are Muslim is becuz, we WON the Battle of HAQQ in Karbala when The Ahlul Bayt (Al-Hussain) rather give his HEAD than COMPROMISING wth the Devil (BAATIL). *
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irnbrux - 15.12.10 - 02:38pm
I wasnt talkn abot u ad252 lmto. A wooden spoon is used to stir shyt lol *
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irnbrux - 15.12.10 - 02:40pm
Whos the christians nirvaana? *
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nirvaana - 15.12.10 - 02:41pm
superman...hes a christian *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 02:41pm
the TRUE Muslims are those who felt SAD for Today. this the Prophet SAW SUNNAH. see my Topic 'The Prophet SAW CRYING!!!' even before the incidennt of Karbala, This Day that Allah SWT mentioned to happen, has made the Prophet SAW in griefs for a long time... *
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irnbrux - 15.12.10 - 02:43pm
The same as what gigabite awrdy said u mean? *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 02:44pm
this Day had MADE the Prophet SAW Emphasize, the Muslims alot of time n WARNED them that LOVING Ahlul Bayt is WAJIB, hence treating them wth respect n Love becomes Wajib upon ALL Muslims. if not than, too Bad...they become NASIBIS. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 02:46pm
n we can see even the COLDEST Non-Muslims, have a great heart if only they KNOW what Happens in KARBALA. *
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gaolach - 15.12.10 - 02:47pm
yeah and whats ur character u t**t?nate who threatens young females saying he's going to put a bullet in their head.nate who inboxs admin say he's going to rape their family,nate who writes in peoples gbs s**t about child rape *
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ad252 - 15.12.10 - 02:47pm
@irnbrux. any person is not made of wood. (jump) *
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ad252 - 15.12.10 - 02:49pm
(gun) *
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irnbrux - 15.12.10 - 02:52pm
Ad ur just makin urself luk stupid now! *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 02:52pm
here if u want to know what has happen to Islam n the Ahlul Bayt (the Prophet's BELOVED Family) that time - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvdpPggY04M *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 02:57pm
see what the Non Muslim Perspective about Imam Hussain (AS) here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOKAY02rR48 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:19pm
heres what Complete u to being a Muslim. so dont take this light. if u dont have this ure cannot say ure a Muslim, cuz this is what DEMANDED by the Prophet SAW n by ALLAH SWT. - ''Say: I don't ask you any wage except to love my near kin. And if anyone earns any good We shall give Him an increase of good (Quran 42.23).'' Thus earn the good deed through loving us Ahlul-Bayt.'' *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:20pm
The Messenger of Allah said: .. T .. )_,_8_w .__,_o )_o_7_o .__,_7 __c .__,_o . _o : (_ . (_S (_) He who dies with love of the family of Muhammad is a Martyr. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:21pm
And behold! He who dies with love of the family of Muhammad is forgiven. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:21pm
And more! The one who dies with love of the family of Muhammad is died repented. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:22pm
Lo! He who dies with love of the family of Muhammad is died as a believer with a COMPLETE belief. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:22pm
And no doubt! The one who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, the angel of death gives him the glad tiding of Paradise, and so do the two angels who question him (Munkar Nakeer). *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:23pm
And verily he who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, will be led toward the Paradise as the bride is led to the house of her husband. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:23pm
Behold! And he who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, for him there will open two gates in his grave toward the Paradise. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:23pm
Lo! And the one who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, Allah will make his grave a sacred place of visit for the angels of mercy. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:24pm
And verily he who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, has died on Sunnah. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:24pm
And no doubt! The one who dies with the HATE of the family of Muhammad, will arrive in the day of judgment while it is printed on his forehead that he is desperate from the Mercy of Allah. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:25pm
Behold! He who dies with the HATE of the family of Muhammad, has died unbeliever. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:25pm
And verily he who dies with the HATE of the family of Muhammad, will never hear the smell of Paradise. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:25pm
Sunni references: Tafsir al-Kabir, by Fakhr al-Din Muhammad Ibn Umar al-Razi, Pub. in Egypt (1357/1938), under commentary of verse 42:23, Part 27, pp. 165-166. Tafsir al-Kashshaf, by al-Zamakhshari Tafsir al-Kabir, by al-Tha'labi *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:26pm
verse of Quran, in which Allah tell his Messenger: ''(O Prophet) tell (people) I don't ask you any wage (in return for my prophethood) except to love my near kin. And if anyone earns any good We shall give Him an increase of good (in return for it)'' (Quran 42.23). *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:28pm
Ibn Abbas narrated: When the above verse (42.23) was revealed, the companions asked: ''O' the Messenger of Allah! Who are those near kin whose love Allah has made obligatory for us?'' Upon that the Prophet (PBUHHF) said: ''Ali, Fatimah, and their two sons.'' He (PBUHHF) repeated this sentence thrice. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:29pm
Sunni references: Tafsir al-Kabir, by Fakhr al-Din al-Razi, Part 27, pp 165-166 Tafsir al-Tha'labi, under the commentary of verse 42:23 of Quran Tafsir al-Tabari, by Ibn Jarir al-Tabari, under verse 42:23 Tafsir al-Qurtubi, under commentary of verse 42:23 of Quran *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:29pm
Tafsir al-Kashshaf, by al-Zamakhshari, under commentary of verse 42:23 Tafsir al-Baidhawi, under the commentary of verse 42:23 of Quran Tafsir al-Kalbi, under commentary of verse 42:23 of Quran al-Madarik, in connection with verse 42:23 Dhakha'ir al-Uqba, by Muhibbuddin al-Tabari, p25 Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:29pm
al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p259 Shawahid al-Tanzeel, Hakim Hasakani, al-Hanafi, v2, p132 Many others such as Ibn Abi Hatam, al-Tabarani, etc. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:30pm
Then the Prophet (PBUHHF) continued: '''Verily Allah has dedicated my wage (of prophethood) to love of my Ahlul-Bayt, and I shall question you about it on the day of judgment.'' *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:31pm
Sunni references: Dhakha'ir al-Uqba, by Muhibbuddin al-Tabari, p26 al-Sirah, by al-Mala *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:32pm
In another tradition, we read: The Messenger of Allah (PBUHHF) said: ''I advice you to be kind to my Ahlul-Bayt for verily I will dispute you about them on the day of Judgment, and whoever I dispute him shall enter the Fire.'' He (PBUHHF) also said: ''One who regards me by regarding my Ahlul-Bayt, he has taken a promise from Allah (to enter the Paradise).''' *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:33pm
Sunni references: al-Tabaqat, by Ibn Sa'd al-Sirah, by al-Mala al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p231 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:34pm
Furthermore, al-Kateeb and Ibn Hajar narrated on the authority of Anas Ibn Malik saying: The Prophet (PBUHHF) said: ''The title of the Book (Saheefah) of believer is love of Ali Ibn Abi Talib.'' *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:34pm
Sunni references: Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 9, section 2, p193 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:35pm
In the above tradition, ''The Book of believer'' refers to the way a believer conducts the affairs, i.e., his daily life, and his diary. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:55pm
''All Muslims glorify the Members of the House of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saww) who are called Aal Muhammad or Ahlul Bayt . This attitude is in accord with the instructions of the Holy Prophet (saww) who commanded Muslims to pray simultaneously for the members of his House whenever they pray for him. By so commanding them, *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:58pm
By so commanding them, he actually required the Muslims to reserve a place for them next to his. The Holy Quran made it mandatory to offer prayers for Muhammad and to greet him: ''Certainly, God and His Angels honor the Prophet (Muhammad). O' believers, pray (God to honor) him and greet him repeatedly.'' (Holy Quran 33.56) *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 04:59pm
33.56. Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:00pm
Many companions asked the Prophet (saww) to teach them how to comply with this command. Many highly respected hadith-recorders (including Al-bukhari and Muslim) reported in their ''Sahihs'' (authentics) that Kaab Ibn Ujrah stated that the Prophet (saww) said: *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:01pm
''Say: God, bestow honor on Muhammad and the members of the House of Muhammad, as Thou bestowed honor on the members of the House of Abraham, Thou Art Praised and glorious. God, bless Muhammad and the members of the House of Muhammad as Thou had blessed the members of the House of Abraham. CertainlyThou Art Praised and gloroius.'' *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:08pm
1. Al-Bukhari, ''Sahih Al-bukhari'' (Authentic of Al-Bukhari), part , p. 101 (in the Book of the intrepretetaion of the Holy Quran) 2. Muslim, Sahih Musim, Part 4, (in the Prayer on the Prophet (saww) after the declaration of the Faith) p 136 3. Muhammad Ibn Majah, Sunan Ibn Majah, vol. 1, hadith NO. 904 4. al-Tirmithi, haidth No. 483, part No. 1. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:08pm
Other hadiths are reported Abu-sa-eed, Abu Mas-ood, Talhah and Ibn Mas-ood. All accord with the above-mentioned hadith of Kaab Ibn Ujrah. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:10pm
When instructing his followers on a religious matter, the Messenger of God (saww) did not speak out of his human desire. The Quran testifies that he only said what was revealed to him: ''Nor does he (Muhammad) say (aught about religion) of (his own) desire. It is not but a revelation sent to him.''' (Holy Quran 53.3-4) *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:27pm
Knowing exactly who Ahlul-Bayt are, thus becomes a very vital matter when one considers this tradition of the Prophet (PBUHHF) as well as many other traditions which unequivocally state that adherence to Ahlul-Bayt is the only way of salvation. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:28pm
Narrated Aisha: One day the Prophet (PBUHHF) came out afternoon wearing a black cloak (upper garment or gown; long coat), then al-Hasan Ibn Ali came and the Prophet accommodated him under the cloak, then al-Husain came and entered the cloak, then Fatimah came and the Prophet entered her under the cloak, then Ali came and the Prophet entered him to the cloak as well. Then the Prophet recited: *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:30pm
Then the Prophet recited: 'Verily Allah intends to keep off from you every kind of uncleanness O' People of the House (Ahlul-Bayt), and purify you a perfect purification (the last sentence of Verse 33:33).' Sunni reference: Sahih Muslim, Chapter of virtues of companions, section of the virtues of the Ahlul-Bayt of the Prophet (PBUHHF), 1980 Edition Pub. in Saudi Arabia, Arabic version, v4, p1883 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:32pm
Arabic version, v4, p1883, One can see that the author of Sahih Muslim confirms that: Imam Ali, Fatimah, al-Hasan, and al-Husain are the Ahlul-Bayt, The purification sentence in Quran (the last sentence of Verse 33:33) was revealed for the virtue of the above-mentioned individuals, and NOT for the wives of the Prophet (PBUHHF).Tradition 61. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:33pm
Muslim (the Author) did not put any other tradition in this section (section of the virtues of Ahlul-Bayt). If the author of Sahih Muslim believed that the wives of the Prophet were included in Ahlul-Bayt, he would have quoted some traditions about them in this section. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:34pm
It is interesting to see that Aisha, the wife of the Prophet (PBUHHF) is the narrator of the above tradition, and she herself is testifying that Ahlul- Bayt are the above-mentioned individuals (i.e., Imam Ali, Fatimah, al-Hasan, and al-Husain, may the blessing of Allah be upon them all). *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:39pm
Another version of the ''Tradition of Cloak'' is written in Sahih al-Tirmidhi, which is narrated in the authority of Umar Ibn Abi Salama, the son of Umm Salama (another wife of Prophet), which is as follows: The verse '''Verily Allah intends to remove all abomination from you, ye members of the Family, and to make you pure and spotless. (33.33)'' *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:41pm
That very verse revealed to the Prophet (PBUHHF) in the house of Umm Salama. Upon that, the Prophet gathered Fatimah, al-Hasan, and al-Husain, and covered them with a cloak, and he also covered Ali who was behind him. Then the Prophet said: ''O' Allah! These are the Members of my House (Ahlul-Bayt). Keep them away from every impurity and purify them with a perfect purification.'' Umm Salama *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:44pm
Umm Salama (the wife of Prophet) then asked: ''Am I also included among them O Apostle of Allah?'' the Prophet replied: ''You remain in your position and you are toward a good ending.'' *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:45pm
Sunni reference: Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v5, pp 351,663 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:46pm
As we see, al-Tirmidhi also confirms that Imam Ali, Fatimah, al-Hasan, and al-Husain are the Ahlul-Bayt, and the purification sentence in Quran (the last sentence of Verse 33:33) was revealed for the virtue of the above-mentioned individuals, and NOT for the wives of the Prophet (PBUHHF). *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:48pm
Also it is apparent from above authentic tradition that the Prophet himself excluded his wives from Ahlul-Bayt. If Umm Salama (RA) was among Ahlul-Bayt, why didn't the Prophet answer her positively? Why didn't he enter her into the cloak? Why did the Prophet tell her that she remains in her own position? If the Prophet (PBUHHF) would consider Umm Salama among Ahlul-Bayt, *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:48pm
If the Prophet (PBUHHF) would consider Umm Salama among Ahlul-Bayt, he would surely have entered her to the cloak and would have prayed for her perfect purity as well. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:51pm
It is also worth mentioning that the Prophet (PBUHHF) did NOT say: ''These are among the Members of my House''. He rather said: ''These are THE Members of my House'' since there was no other member of Ahlul-Bayt who was alive at the time of the Prophet (PBUHHF). Also notice that Umm Salama (RA) who is the virtuous wife of the Prophet is the narrator of the tradition to his son *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:52pm
and she (Umm Salama) gives the testimony that who Ahlul-Bayt are. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:53pm
In the tradition of al-Hakim the wording the last question and answer is as follows: Umm Salama said: ''O Prophet of Allah! Am I not one of the members of your family?'' The Holy Prophet replied: ''You have a good future but only these are the members of my family. O Lord! The members of my family are more deserving.'' *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:54pm
Sunni reference: al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v2, p416 Also the wording reported by al-Suyuti and Ibn al-Athir is as follows: Umm Salama said to the Holy Prophet: Am I also one of them? He replied: No. You have your own special position and your future is good. Sunni reference: Usdul Ghabah, by Ibn al-Athir, v2, p289 Tafsir al-Durr al-Manthoor, by al-Suyuti, v5, p198 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:56pm
Also the wording reported by al-Suyuti and Ibn al-Athir is as follows: Umm Salama said to the Holy Prophet: ''Am I also one of them?'' He replied: ''No. You have your own special position and your future is good.'' Sunni reference: Usdul Ghabah, by Ibn al-Athir, v2, p289 Tafsir al-Durr al-Manthoor, by al-Suyuti, v5, p198 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:57pm
Also al-Tabari quotes Umm Salama saying: I said, ''O Prophet of Allah! Am I not also one of your Ahlul-Bayt?'' I swear by the Almighty that the Holy Prophet did NOT grant me any distinction and said: ''You have a good future.'' Sunni reference: Tafsir al-Tabari, v22, p7 under the commentary of verse 33:33 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:58pm
Beside Sahih Muslim and Sahih al-Tirmidhi from which we quoted the Tradition of Cloak on the authority of Aisha and Umm Salama respectively, below are more Sunni references of the Tradition of Cloak who reported both versions of the traditions:- *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 05:59pm
Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v6, pp 323,292,298; v1, pp 330-331; v3, p252; v4, p107 from Abu Sa'id al-Khudri *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:00pm
Fadha'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p578, Tradition 978 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:00pm
al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v2, p416 (two traditions) from Ibn Abi Salama, v3, pp 146-148 (five traditions), pp 158,172 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:00pm
al-Khasa'is, by an-Nisa'i, pp 4,8 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:01pm
al-Sunan, by al-Bayhaqi, narrated from Aisha and Umm Salama *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:02pm
Tafsir al-Kabir, by al-Bukhari (the author of Sahih), v1, part 2, p69 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:02pm
Tafsir al-Kabir, by Fakhr al-Razi, v2, p700 (Istanbul), from Aisha *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:04pm
Tafsir al-Durr al-Manthoor, by al-Suyuti, v5, pp 198,605 from Aisha and Umm Salama *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:04pm
Tafsir Ibn Jarir al-Tabari, v22, pp 5-8 (from Aisha and Abu Sa'id al-Khudri), pp 6,8 (from Ibn Abi Salama) (10 traditions) *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:05pm
Tafsir al-Qurtubi, under the commentary of verse 33:33 from Umm Salama *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:05pm
Tafsir Ibn Kathir, v3, p485 (Complete version) from Aisha and Umar Ibn Abi Salama *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:05pm
Usdul Ghabah, by Ibn al-Athir, v2, p12; v4, p79 narrated from Ibn Abi Salama *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:11pm
Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, sec. 1, p221 from Umm Salama *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:11pm
Tarikh, by al-Khateeb Baghdadi, v10, narrated from Ibn Abi Salama *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:11pm
Tafsir al-Kashshaf, by al-Zamakhshari, v1, p193 narrated from Aisha *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:12pm
Mushkil al-Athar, by al-Tahawi, v1, pp 332-336 (seven traditions) *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:12pm
Dhakha'ir al-Uqba, by Muhibb al-Tabari, pp21-26, from Abu Sa'id Khudri *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:12pm
Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, v9, p166 (by several transmitters) *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:12pm
... and more ... *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:14pm
Here is another authentic variation of ''The Tradition of Cloak'' which is related to Safiyya who was another wife of the Prophet (PBUHHF). Ja'far Ibn Abi Talib narrated: *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:16pm
When the Messenger of Allah noticed that a blessing from Allah was to descent, he told Safiyya (one of his wives): ''Call for me! Call for me!'' Safiyya said: ''Call who, O the Messenger of Allah?'' He said: ''Call for me my Ahlul-Bayt who are Ali, Fatimah, al-Hasan, and al-Husain.'' Thus we sent for them and they came to him. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:17pm
Then the Prophet (PBUHHF) spread his cloak over them, and raised his hand (toward sky) saying: ''O Allah! These are my family (Aalee), so bless Muhammad and the family (Aal) of Muhammad.'' And Allah, to whom belong Might and Majesty, revealed: ''Verily Allah intends to keep off from you every kind of uncleanness O' People of the House (Ahlul-Bayt), and purify you a thorough purification (Quran, t *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:18pm
(Quran, the last sentence of Verse 33.33)''. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:19pm
Sunni references:- al-Mustadrak by al-Hakim, Chapter of ''Understanding (the virtues) of Companions, v3, p148. The author then wrote: ''This tradition is authentic (Sahih) based on the criteria of the two Shaikhs (al-Bukhari and Muslim).'' *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:20pm
Talkhis of al-Mustadrak, by al-Dhahabi, v3, p148 *
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witch1 - 15.12.10 - 06:21pm
Kek, didn't you used to claim to be a descendant of mohammed? *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:21pm
Usdul Ghabah, by Ibn al-Athir, v3, p33 *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:23pm
Although the majority of traditions on this issue show that the last sentence of the verse 33:33 was revealed in the house of Umm Salama (as quoted earlier), the above tradition implies that it might have been revealed in the house of Safiyya. Based on the opinion of the Sunni scholars including Ibn Hajar, it is quite possible that the verse was revealed more than once. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:24pm
In each occasion, the Prophet repeated his action in front of different wives so that they all realize who his Ahlul-Bayt are. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:25pm
The testimony of three wives of the Prophet (Aisha, Umm Salama, and Safiyya) leaves us no room but to believe that the Ahlul-Bayt at the time of the Prophet were no more than five individuals: Prophet Muhammad, Lady Fatimah, Imam Ali, al-Hasan, and al-Husain (Peace be upon them all). *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 06:27pm
yes witch1? *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 07:16pm
U really cant undastand... U are again spreading hatred.... thought u ll be ok after opening that Muslim unity post... *
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akramwap - 15.12.10 - 07:17pm
Ya Allah !! Wallahi I bear witness to Allah that i love ahlalbite(family of our beloved muhamed (pbuh) ) *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:18pm
u misunderstand me 5tranger. here im emphasizing this topic for the Nasibis. n Nasibis are not worth to be called, a Muslim. *
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akramwap - 15.12.10 - 07:18pm
but keka..let me say u nw spreading hate between muslims *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 07:18pm
No one denies the importance of Ahlul Bayt, and sure we should feel sorrow for that day, infact for those Muslims who were there but cudnt help Imam Hussein. But on this day, beating ourselves is correct? *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:20pm
this topic purpose to call Muslim also to LOVE the Ahlul Bayt n not misunderstood those who Love the Ahlul Bayt as Rafidha, Shia, etc. indirectly, im trying to solve the FITNA of the Nasibis, toward those Shia or other Non-Shia that LOVE the Ahlul Bayt greatly. *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 07:21pm
I really dont know what are Nasibis thou, but if they belief on first Kalima, and u r casting them out of Islam , then u r same as those wahabis that do that and u keep on saying them bad for this thing... *
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minyan - 15.12.10 - 07:22pm
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massakku - 15.12.10 - 07:22pm
Can i interupt ask why is it muslim alone? *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:22pm
beating urself till bleed ON PURPOSE is Wrong...but they arent Rafidha for doing that. the TERM Rafidha only suits those who deny Allah SWT as their God. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:23pm
so, if one called simply a Shia with the term Rafidha for other than that reason, they are very Offensive n being Rude already n surpasses the VERY Aqidah of Laa ilaaha illa Allah ''RIGHTS'' of that Muslim that they put term as Rafidha. *
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akramwap - 15.12.10 - 07:24pm
Nasb in Arabic refers to setting something up or raising it. Mukhtaar al-Sihaah, 1/275. *
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akramwap - 15.12.10 - 07:24pm
In al-Qaamoos it says that the Naasibis (al-nawaasib, al-naasibah and ahl al-nasb) are those whose religious beliefs include hating Ali peace be upon him because they set themselves up against him, i.e. took a hostile stance against him *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:26pm
whereby for those who HATE Ali, they can be either Munaafiq OR Nawasib. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:27pm
which BOTH leads them to Eternal FIRE. so, pls be very Careful on Who u Hate n having Enimosity wth. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:28pm
even the Laa ilaaha illa Allah Testimony of ures, WONT be accepted by Allah SWT for this hate. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:29pm
hence why this is VERY Important Topic to be Understood very well by ALL Muslims. im just doing a favour here, if u dont need, dont read. *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 07:35pm
Then what is the link between Nasibis and wahabis as u say? Same thing? *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:35pm
n @5tranger deffending those Nawasib is not advisable, cuz it takes u to a VERY SLIPPERY Position, which if u did, it makes u ONE of THEM. *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 07:37pm
Well i really dont know who are they... I ll try to read about them... *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:37pm
Nawasib can be ANYBODY, not just for a certain group of Wahabi/Sunni/Shia/etc...this Allah Knows ur Hearts... *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:38pm
yes please, stay put, ul soon understand who they are. the Munaafiq n the NASIBIs. *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 07:39pm
Ok fine, I got the picture... I thought u were saying wahabis as Nasibis... *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:39pm
ok 5tranger. :) *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 07:52pm
Just read in a site that its the term usually used by Shia, for Salafis. Is it right? *
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akramwap - 15.12.10 - 07:55pm
Altho i dont beleive that ther is sect called wahabi! But nasibi is bad nd worest than any! *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:58pm
it should be a term used for WHOEVER that Denies The Ahlul Bayt's HIGH VIRTUES n it should also be used as term to WHOEVER that Deffends The Ahlul Bayt's Enemies. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 07:59pm
Deffending the Baatil made ones on Baatil. unless they dont know, n Repented. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:00pm
those terms are for the believing Muslims that goes to disbelief. which this term is worst than for that of Apostasy. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:01pm
the Nawasib wont even hear the Smell of Heaven. *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 08:01pm
yea i got it... Those shia must be wrong then who say so... *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:03pm
hence why i think if im not mistaken, in the Hanafia School thoughts of belief, it takes one to have the GUTS to even Praise the Enemy of Ali Alayhis Salaam. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:04pm
becuz, these will make one to the Group Of NAWASIB. *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 08:04pm
I agree... *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:04pm
the NASIBIS usually have these both quality = Hate The Ahlul Bayt + a Munaafiq. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:06pm
The Enemy of Ali AS is the Enemy Of The Prophet hence they become, the Enemy Of Allah SWT. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:07pm
ENIMOSITY toward the 5 HOLY is FORBIDDEN in The Holy Quran, n on Sahih Hadiths. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:08pm
we know them by their Enimosity n their Hatreds n ways of their Discreditting these 5 Holys. *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 08:11pm
Right, but now dont try to drift and link them 2wards wahabis.lol *
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akramwap - 15.12.10 - 08:12pm
U mean sunnies @5trng lol *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:12pm
well they know who they are, im just trying to remind them, that would saves them if they Repented. *
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akramwap - 15.12.10 - 08:13pm
Nasibies are nasibeis! They hate ahlalbite ! Oh man they realy fool! *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:15pm
yeah theyre really ARE fools...if only they Know the VIRTUES Of Ali AS exceed other even Sahabis... *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 08:16pm
Why they even started hate and on which basis? *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:17pm
other Sahabis also have their virtues. even the Prophet's SAW Wives have their own Virtues, but the Virtues of the 5 Holys are OBVIOUS n MADE Obligatory by ALLAH SWT in The Holy Quran aswel as in Many Sahih Hadiths. *
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akramwap - 15.12.10 - 08:18pm
Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The Naasibis are those who set themselves up against Ahl al-Bayt (the members of the Prophets household) and hated them and slandered them. 2/283) *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:18pm
why they even start hate? many...could be cuz Arrogance/Desires/Worldy/Plain Stupidity (lackk Of Knowledge). *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:20pm
Or some may just have MADE MISTAKE- hence they are the Sinfuls. this NEED REPENTANCE n Good Deeds after Sincere REPENTANCE. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:20pm
Heavy huh? @5tranger. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:22pm
so, if WE are ONE of them (NASIBIS), pls DO MAKE UR REPENTANCE NOW, before the Angel Of Death take ur Souls... *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 08:23pm
yea must be arrogance and to turn down the Shia beliefs... *
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akramwap - 15.12.10 - 08:24pm
i gona go lol! *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:25pm
DO NOT make the Desires to DOUBT these VIRTUES Of The 5 Holys...they are Absolutely CHOSEN By Allah SWT HIMSELF n hence The Obligatory is ON their Side for ALL Muslim to Belief in Allah SWT n be Accepted the Testimony Of The TWO KALEMA SHAHADA. *
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akramwap - 15.12.10 - 08:26pm
But som beleivs that nasibis are rafida! *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:26pm
yeah so true 5tranger, thats why i always said sometimes, the Shia is SO MUCH Safer in their Salvation of ''Laa ilaha illa Allah''. *
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akramwap - 15.12.10 - 08:28pm
not all shia *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 08:29pm
Thou i dont hav problem with Shia having belief on Quran and Ahlul Bayt, but they do many things wrong. Dont u think? *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:29pm
NASIBIS are worse than RAFIDHA, akramwap. if Rafidha dont believe in Allah SWT, The Nasibis are even PUT Hate upon Allah SWT. hence the NASIBIS are placed at the VERY BOTTOM Of the HELL, together wth the MUNAAFIQOON. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:32pm
even below the Hell Of the Shirkoon. n they usually get also the Great Tortures Of Allah SWT not just in Hell, but also when They Lives in this World. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:32pm
theyre End are SADDEST End. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:33pm
everybody made wrongs 5tranger, not just the Shia. *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 08:33pm
Like i hav known some Shia, abusing Prophet(pbuh)'s wives and Sahabas. also beating ourselves in Muharam, and temporary marriage and few other stuff... But I know not all Shia follows that, but main stream do, is not it? I hav same respect for those Shia who reject these things... *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:34pm
the belief in Quran n Ahlul Bayt, to me, this the BEST Belief for Salvation. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:37pm
yeah Abusing the Prophet's Wives like those that are Said by Quran, Of doubting their Chastity, is also Forbidden n that is Against The Quran n hence Huge Sin. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:38pm
Anyway, Remember, LOVING Ahlul Bayt is MADE Wajib n MANDATORY as a WAGE Of being Muslim by The Prophet SAW. this ur Salvation. *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:39pm
not just by Prophet SAW also told By Allah SWT to the Prophet SAW to remind ALL OF US MUSLIMS n his OTHER COMPANIONS... *
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5tranger - 15.12.10 - 08:41pm
Ok, what abt the other things i hav mentioned. These are followed my main stream Shia or just the minority? *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:41pm
so, the Prophet's Companions also MUST ABIDE to THIS LAW Of Allah SWT as THEIR SALVATION Of Islam, depends on THIS also (OBLIGATORY LOVE TO THE PROPHET'S KIN). *
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kekasih - 15.12.10 - 08:42pm
only the minority ignorance ones i think. cuz the Mainstream Of Shia, believe in the Chastity Of The Prophet's Wives. *
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