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BismillahirRahmanirRahim. ''... They said (in boast) We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary the Apostle of Allah; but they killed him not nor crucified him but so it was made to appear to them and those who differ therein are full of doubts with no (certain) knowledge but only conjecture to follow for of a surety they killed him not.'' Quran , 4:157 |
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@684247 | 23 January 09 |
Lets first c what Paul says, ''If Christ be not risen from the dead, then our preaching is vain, and your faith is vain.'' 1 Corinthians 15:14
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@684247 | 23 January 09 |
Acc to Paul, theres nothing that Christianity can offer mankind, other than the blood and gore of Jesus. If Jesus did NOT die, and he was NOT resurrected from the dead, then there can be NO salvation in Christianity! ''For all your good deeds,'' says the Christian dogmatist, ''are like filthy rags'' (Isaiah 64:6) In a nutshell, NO CRUCIFIXION! NO CHRISTIANITY! Now I wont just go on and on with all the points that I have to present. Well discuss them 1 by 1 inshaAllah |
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@684247 | 23 January 09 |
1. Christians say Jesus died for our sins. Lets c what the bible says, ''The soul that sinneth, it shall die. THE SON SHALL NOT BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHER, NEITHER SHALL THE FATHER BEAR THE INIQUITY OF THE SON: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.'' Ezekiel 18:20
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@684247 | 23 January 09 |
Wot do u have to say bout the above mentioned verse then? It clearly contradicts to wot xtians say! Check this verse: ''But every one shall die FOR HIS OWN INIQUITY: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.'' Jeremiah 31:30
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@mishy_23 | 23 January 09 |
Dat guy just ran away...he's writing in oda groups dat we r doing blasphemy.. ![]() |
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@levafix | 26 January 09 |
Please get ur facts stright! You quoting from the old testiment! Things changed when Jesus came to earth! Thats why the second section of the bible is called the new testiment! Quote from there if you wish to prove anything. Thus far you been isolating texts which has no relevance to what you saying!
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@levafix | 26 January 09 |
Mishy im really touched that you missed me!
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@salam05 | 26 January 09 |
You'll get ur reply soon...lol
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@mishy_23 | 26 January 09 |
Lol... Bro salam on a mission! So levafix, u dont believe in da old testament?
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@salam05 | 26 January 09 |
Lol... I neva intended to answer him. I don't wanna hijack da topic of bro 684..lol He can answer these argument in a better way.
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@mishy_23 | 26 January 09 |
Yeah ofcourse he can but u can answere in a no lesser way too. So any one of u can do it inshaALLAH! ![]() |
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@levafix | 27 January 09 |
Of course i do! Its then part of the bible! I cant believe you guys you turning this fruitful discussion into an attack but its ok...i will be blessed thank you!
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@levafix | 28 January 09 |
I cant believe that you would isolate texts, in future read the CONTEXT FIRST! AND WHEN SPEAKING OF JESUS USE THE OLD TESTIMENT TO DISSPROVE(which will never happen) THE DEATH OF JESUS! YOU USING TWO DIFFERENT TIMELINES AND EVEN THOUGH MUCH OF IT APPLIES TO OUR JEWISH BROTHERS AND SISTERS, YES WE DO BELIEVE IN THE OLD TESTIMENT!
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@mishy_23 | 28 January 09 |
Luk leva, we r not trying to attack. Nor will we abuse u or ur faith. We r just trying to bring out da truth to u...
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@levafix | 29 January 09 |
Your truth is conflicting! How can you follow a book written by some guy claiming to be a prophet, who married an innocent 6 year old girl, had s*x with her when she was nine,worshipped idols and practised poligamy? Is this the kind of prophet you have and claim he wrote the truth when he himself confessed that he got some of the scriptures from satan himself? No thank you keep your 'truth' to yourself!
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@684247 | 31 January 09 |
@levafix. I wd cal u an illiterate xtian. Wt do u mean OLD testament nd NEW testament.? U think Jesus came 2 teach something NEW in d NEW testament? ![]() ![]() |
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@mahdhura | 31 January 09 |
As jonah Was 3days n 3 nyts i d belly of d whale so shal d son of man be 3days n 3 nyts in d heart of d earth... My question 2 d xtians is was jonah ded yl he was in d belly of d fish. N in reply 2 yur accusation dat we worship idols i wul jst simply stated dat an idol is anyting worship apart from god. D first pillar of islam is laa ilaha illallah wa muhamad rasulullah. (ders no god except allah(god) n muhamad is d mesenger of allah(god) n any body dat worship anyting, be it an animal or a human. Or any part of creation is a disbiliver in d 1nes of god n an idol worshiper. We r muslims those hu submit demselfz 2 d wil of god n d wil of god is to worship him alone without ascribin partners un2him. E.g givin him sons or dotaz
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@levafix | 31 January 09 |
Well yes he came to fulfil the things written about him, all the prophecies that said he would come and what would happen. In the Old testiment God made a covenant with Abraham and his son that was promised (this happened after the birth of ismael so it dont apply to him). When Jesus came he made a new covenant with the people, which included everyone on condition that they accept him. Testiment means contract, so it means a old contact and new contract.
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@levafix | 2 February 09 |
As for Jonah who said he was dead? Please explain where you heard this
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@684247 | 3 February 09 |
EXACTLY. Jonah was NOT dead. The verse sayz, ''AS JONAH WAS...'' Jonah was in the belly of the whale ALIVE, so Jesus shud also have been ALIVE. ![]() |
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