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Every time this gets talked about in the forum it descends into stupid insulting so here we can have a nice peaceful debate about it |
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@9362 | 31 December 08 |
Whilst i understand the anger felt by israel because of the rocket attacks i feel that hammas has been given a huge propaganda victory.i also wonder if the attack only started because there are elections in a few months and the israeli ruling party is behind in the polls?
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@warrior0 | 31 December 08 |
You are right digits, it is very similar to what clinton did in iraq during the monica lewinski scandel. The israeli brutality is only creating more hatred.
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@9362 | 31 December 08 |
Clinton had nothing to do with Iraq warrior
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@ekka | 31 December 08 |
So what do u sugest should isrial sit and fiddle with their thumbs while hamas atack them. Yes there is uprore in the world. Ones again i have to ask why? 53 civiliance have died in zimbabwe thousends have died at the hands of a dictator why is that no problem to the world.
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@ekka | 31 December 08 |
Does the world hate jews that much that they totaly go bulistick when the jews say we had it with hamas. Is 1 muslims live worth more than that of a 1000 others in Africa. It totaly astonish me that tv and newspapers and the world go in to overdrive about this but Mugabe is still in power killing thousends and i c lil to nun outrage at him.
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@ekka | 31 December 08 |
I undastand civiliance died and its bad but should hamas not be condemd for their cowardly actions using schools and populated areas to hide behind civiliance to fite isrial. Shooting rockets from place of worshep. Why did the muslims alow it? Why is hamas aloud by the civiliance to infeltrate them and put them in danger.
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@9362 | 31 December 08 |
Plenty of coverage here about the evils of mugabe but if the uk went in to zimbabwe most african countries would stand behind mugabe,support him and accuse us of acting like colonists again
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@9362 | 31 December 08 |
The civilians see hammas as their defender like the Israeli's see the army as their defender.Some palestinians have been in refugee camps for years.All are effected by the building of the wall which may have achieved an objective of stopping most of the suicide bombers however it also condemned many palestinians to more misery and poverty especially as they refused to allow many medical supplies through so many palestinians died of illness.Israel also controls the water and electric supplies.I do not support the violence from other side but i can see why palestinians support hammas
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@warrior0 | 31 December 08 |
Clinton had iraq bombed during the monica scandel digits. Ekka what mugabe is doing is wrong and likewise what israel is doing is wrong. Israel is committing genocide. To throw a people off their land and refuse them the right to return home is wrong. The palestinians fight against israeli oppression. Any people that is oppressed will fight back. You cant steal someones land degrade the former inhabitants, blockade them, starve them, deny them medical supplies, electricity, fuel etc and not expect them to fight back
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@ekka | 31 December 08 |
I think its time the whole world look a bit wider. Im a minority in my country my birth rite was stolen from me so should i now have the rite to go blow up ppl coz they stold my birth rite in the name of freedom fighting.
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@warrior0 | 31 December 08 |
Any land appropriation in south africa is subject to the constitution, a land grab would be unconstitutional and illegal, the only land grabbing that did take place was under the white racist government. South africa is not following the path of zimbabwe. The only similarity of south africa to israel is the previous white racist government of south africa, a similar position is happening in israel to the palestinian people, who are treated as sub human forced to go through daily checkpoints. The wall in israel is worse than the berlin wall.
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@shadyct | 1 January 09 |
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@shadyct | 1 January 09 |
i agree with warrior re South Africa.
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@zeroload | 4 January 09 |
I know of 3 ppl that lost their land due to land grabs over here and thats just one small farming area,the ppl who are affected cant afford the court fees needed to pay for the removal of illegal squatters so they dont do a thing,also everyone knows my view on the situation by now but saw a post where there was a call for muslims to unite and deal with the so called enemies of islam.thats starting to border on hate speech
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@goodboy3 | 5 January 09 |
if i start talking, i would swearing alot... so should i voice out my views on here?
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@9362 | 5 January 09 |
Sadly there is quite a lot of hate talk in the forum zeroload,strong admin on here goodboy!
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@zeroload | 6 January 09 |
True digits i just think that hate speech in any form is dangerous and should never be allowed,no matter how emotional the subject is.also i would think its an insult to the muslims who dont take part in it because most ppl will judge them off that |
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@warrior0 | 6 January 09 |
Zero that land grab is not condoned by the sa government but is conducted by illegal squatters. They should speak to a legal clinic for advice on how to proceed to evict the squatters. Huh ekka?
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@n1ck | 15 January 09 |
I was watching the aljazeera TV channel last night, and there were an*lysts discussing the situation in Gaza. Basically what is happening is that Israel have taken the stance that they want Palestine to know that any rockets fired at Israel from Palestine or Lebanon will result in massive retaliation from Israel. This is why Israel is continuing unabated with their terrifying offensive on Gaza. Israel says the air and ground forces are acting in retaliation to rockets fired into Israel by Hamas. According to sources on the ground, as many as 70 rockets were being fired into Israel daily by Hamas before the war began 20 days ago. Hamas continues to fire rockets into Israel, but the number has dropped to 20 rockets per day. (source: Bloomberg.com) |
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@n1ck | 15 January 09 |
Israel's strategy is to try and enforce a condition of stability on the area by making Palestine fearful of carrying out any offensives on Israel in fear of a massive retaliation from Israel. A case of making it known to Palestine that 4 rockets will not be met by 4 rockets, but rather 4 rockets will be met by days or weeks of massive and devastating Israeli military action. It is what Israel is calling a deterrence strategy. |
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