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''As a Jehovah's Witness you have been taught from the Bible and the Watchtower organization...'' Mate who taught you that wearing jewellery is evil? |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
''Why are you not allowed to examine your own organization and its problems?'' mate it helps to know wot you are talking about coz Witnesses ARE allowed to examine everything for themselves. They given access to past literature. |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
''Why does it tell you what to think and do?'' Mate does your church not tell you to be loving to others? Is it really a bad thing to be reminded to be approachable as Jesus was and to be caring, and loving and honest and have respect for others and treat every1 well even those who mistreat you? Is it really a bad thing to be reminded to keep good moral standards? does your church not tell you Jesus is 'God the Son'...? that expression is not found anywhere in the Bible but ppl are made to think and believe its from the Bible |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
''Have you checked the documentation from the Watchtower Magazine? '' Yes, im not a blind follower. |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
''How do you know that the Watchtower is correct? Because it says it is?'' Nope! I know its correct because of research. Because some church pastors have used articles from the Watchtower and Awake! magazines in their sermons quite a number of times and had bishops tell them it was the best sermon theyve heard in yrs! Mate only a handful of Witneses were born and raised as Witnesses. Most came from churches. And trust me when theres hundreds of slanderers slandering about the Witnesses you dont just become a Witness so easily. you do all your homework to make sure wot they are saying is correct. |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
''Unfortunately, as a Jehovah's Witness, you are only encouraged to study what the Watchtower and Awake magazines tell you to study.'' Youre allowed to study wot you want. Witnesses are free agents. On the contrary, ive been to houses and been told 'im not allowed to take your magazine because im belong to the ****** church' |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
''You are instructed to not take any literature from apostate Christendom. This way, you will have far less opportunity to be challenged, something the Watchtower organization doesn't want to happen.'' Really now??? Mate you do realize we get challenged everytime we go from house to house? If the organization didnt want its members to be challenged they would tell them to stay in their houses and not discuss their beliefs with any1. THINK! funny thing is I dont see many SDA going around telling ppl why it is bad to wear jewelry and make-up. Funny how I had such a hard time trying to find out from you which denomination you were from... I wonder why you didnt tell me until the 5th time I asked you. |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
''The Watchtower Magazine teaches by asking the questions and giving the answers. Sometimes it even uses a Bible reference (often out of context) to back up what it says.'' Really..? You know, Ive been studying with Witnesses for 4yrs now and ALL the answers from my questions I asked them have been from the Bible. theyve answered me from the bible, not sometimes but ALL the time. And thats wot impressed me as I had never gotten any references from the bible when taught that God was 3in1 in other churches. They be always comparing God to an egg or to water, but no Bible reference. |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
''It all looks good and sounds good from your perspective.'' When I first studied with witnesses after they left I would always do my OWN research to make sure wot I was being taught was right. And guess wot... it was right from other scholars perspectives as well, scholars who werent Witnesses. |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
''The Bible alone is sufficient. But the Watchtower denies this: From time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of Jehovah's people those who, like the original Satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude...They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such 'Bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago... [The Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1981]'' Read that quote again mate its doesnt deny that the Bible alone is sufficient! Youre trying to give a bad impression of the Witnesses as if they dont get their teachings from the bible. copying and pasting from anti witness sites really makes a bozo out of every1 who does it... read that quote aloud to yourself and see if its denying that the bible alone is sufficient. as you claim it does. Then read 2 timothy 3:16 |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
''Funny thing is that, according to the Watchtower, if you study the Bible by itself, you will come to believe these things!'' The really funny thing before I started studying with witnesses I collected bibles then started reading them on my own and came to realize Jesus was actually the SON of God and not Jehovah himself. And that God had a name, Jehovah. At first I used shocked that many churches never taught this, And thats when I looked for a group that taught this. Yes, I went out and looked for the Jehovah's Witnesses. |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
''Could it be that apart from the selected questions, answers, scripture quotes, and direction of the Watchtower teaching, that the Bible actually does teach these apostate doctrines? If you don't check for yourself, and only believe the Watchtower, you'll never know.'' Nope not really, the Bible doesn not teach that God is 3in1 thats why Trinitarians squeezed in 1 john 5:7 in the 16th century to try cement that idea that Jehovah God is a trinity. every1 checks everything for themselves befor becoming a witness |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
''Do you want to trust your destiny into the teachings of several men headquartered in Brooklyn, New York who claim to be the directors of God's organization on earth? Do you?'' As I said most of the Witnesses come from churches. And with all the anti witness going on around the world and even in their homes they would 1st be absolutely sure that they double check everything before becoming a Jehovahs Witness. No one is forced to stay in the congregations. But guess wot ppl are staying and its growing |
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@unquiet1 | 10 April 11 |
Yes mate as hard as is it to be a Witness, Jehovahs witnesses are actually growing! With the hundreds of websites dedicated to slandering witnesses the organization still grows. And guess wot... nothing you or anyone can do or say to stop it. Instead all this slandering makes Witnesses' faith grow! You've certainly added 5cents into making my faith stronger... thanks ![]() |
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@elijah_2 | 10 April 11 |
Bravo!!! Well said, that's what I Love to see, people that can back up and defend what they believe in (1 Peter 3:15).
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@elijah_2 | 10 April 11 |
However, I don't knwo where u got the Jewellery idea from, SDA does believe that people are not to make an adornment out in wearing Jewelleries, (1 Peter 3:3-4). But we not make it an issue of salvation, so I think u have the wrong information.
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@elijah_2 | 10 April 11 |
There are 28 Fundamental Beliefs that we stand upon, and when u get the time, please quote from the 28 Fundamental Beliefs where u see it says, anything about Jewellery.
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@halman | 10 April 11 |
That's what you like to see? But you've seen it before,elijah2, on the forums. As for jewelry, the Bible talks about being modest when it comes to adornment, including clothing and hairstyles.It means not being overly concerned with outward appearences,but to concentrate on the inner person.So,in itself,wearing jewelry isn't wrong,it's being extreme that is counseled against.
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@elijah_2 | 10 April 11 |
No where do you see in our fundamental beliefs where we say Jewelry wearing is wrong. The thing is we dont make Jewelery wearing an issue. But we do encourage people to not wear jeweleries and ornaments, because it has roots from paganism, especially the wearing of earrings and nose jewels which was the pagans way of pleasing their gods. However, it is not a salvation base teaching. Similarly, we encourage a vegetarian diet, and we prefer if the members not eat flesh [meat] for various health reasons,but again its not going to keep people from obtaining salvation. On the contrary, we do have some people in our fellowship that will make an issue of wearing Jeweleries base on their OWN personal belief, but thats not the official stance of our Church on Jewelery wearing. If you notice Seventh Day Adventist does wear wedding ring. If you want to know what the church beliefs on a whole go to the SDA Adventist Official webstie
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@halman | 11 May 12 |
Then if wearing jewelry & eating meat does not prevent people from salvation,then no need to encourage the opposite,since God would not view it as an issue. However,if we go beyond what the Scriptures teach,then that is a different matter...
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@elijah_2 | 12 May 12 |
My Friend i would believe that ur organization doesn't encourage its members not salute a flag; However, if one of its member should have saluted a flag. I would like to believe that the person has not lose their salvation.
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