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Much of what is stated and the scriptures used, are what Jehovah's Witnesses have being saying for decades.Good texts and ones we've used many times.People of faith can see the sign of the times and are in expectation of what is to come. Many though, have differing thoughts and ideas on how prophecy is being,and going to be,played out. |
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@halman | 22 March 11 |
If any are viewing,join in and give your thoughts as to events in the earth and the future for mankind
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@elijah_2 | 23 March 11 |
Thanks for the feedback. And I haven't found anyone on the entire prodigits who I see is willing to sit and have a conscious Bible Study to find what does God really require and to find out if the faith they hold to match up to what the Bible teaches.
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@halman | 23 March 11 |
What do you mean by anyone elijah2?
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@elijah_2 | 24 March 11 |
Well majority of the people here with a few exceptions (Halman, unquiet1 and Coolit), but the others all they do is just quote scriptures that supposingly prove their point and not even an*lyze what the other part is saying. All I see people doing in the forums is just a bible verse competition. It's like their main aim is to see who can quote the most verse and so on and and so on. The fact of the matter is, they are not consciously quoting scriptures and reasoning them out.
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@elijah_2 | 24 March 11 |
Jesus himself said, ...the scripture cannot be broken... (John 10:34) Meaning that they don't contradict each other. In other words; John is not going to say something AND then Paul then say something that's going to contradict what John had already said. Why is that so? Because ALL scriptures is inspired by God (2 Timothy 3:16) and if they contradict themselves, then the God who gave them is a Self Contradictory God. |
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@elijah_2 | 24 March 11 |
Therefore: it is pointless for people who have contrary beliefs to be quoting numerous scriptures to try and contradict other verses that the other party had already quoted. Rather they are to reason out each passage, each verse, until they both come to a common understand of it.
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@halman | 24 March 11 |
I see what you mean,elijah2. Some tend to argue instead of reason,but then again,certain ones of other religions seem to be in attack mode which just results in fruitless point scoring.
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@elijah_2 | 24 March 11 |
Thats exactly my point. As christians we should be able to sit and reason together from the scriptures and not a bible verse contest.
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@halman | 9 April 11 |
Elijah_2,you only studied a couple of months with Jehovah's Witnesses.I studied 15 months,making 'sure of all things'- 1 Thessalonians 5: 21. And you know that God's name is Jehovah, not the LORD as translators took His name out. Thankfully,there are Bibles that have restored it where it should be.As for quoting our literature,it makes no difference what you try to say.I know you're not a JW apostate as we soon recognise them, but young man, if you sincerely believe the path you're on,so be it.
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@halman | 9 April 11 |
Also,I recognised God's holy spirit was with the Witnesses as I felt it the first time I attended their meetings in 1981.I also have & still do,felt God's spirit upon me.I know what is what when it comes to doctrine.The first christians were to preach and teach and had a governing body which sent out men and letters to congregations. Instructions that were based on the Bible were given.If you know your Bible, you can see the basics of how the Christian congregation is run and organised.
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@halman | 9 April 11 |
So,if you were'nt and aren't satisfied with Jehovah's Witnesses being directed by the ''faithful and discreet slave'' then that again, is your choice. The Etheopian eunuch had to be helped by Philip even though he read the Scriptures. The jews had to be instructed by the priests and judges had to give judgements based on the Law to people. Similar today. Without God's spirit and help from those qualified,we wouldn't know the whole body of truth.If you believe otherwise,youre free to do so.
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@halman | 9 April 11 |
A final point here,Jehovah's Witnesses don't take scripture out of context,a ploy that others do,particularly opposers who selectively quote from our literature and try to use it against us,while leaving out the rest of the information it's lifted from. If a true Christian follows the bible he won't be swayed by others who may be 'similar' but not quite the same- Matthew 13:25-30, 36-43 . I use this as while I am willing to reason on doctrine,I know what is what regarding the Bible's teachings.
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@elijah_2 | 9 April 11 |
I don't dispute the fact that we will not understand everything from the Bible, and at times we will need the help of others, but when there is a group of people DICTATING what people are to believe, then we have a problem. Because the system that your congregration operates by is similar to that of the Pharisees and the Catholics.
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@unquiet1 | 9 April 11 |
dictatorship is being told not to wear jewellery because its 'evil'
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@halman | 9 April 11 |
No,the 'system' you say we use is nothing like the Pharisees or Catholics.You're just repeating the opposers and apostates' views who don't like the way things are.The crux of the matter is who ''the faithful and discreet slave'' are and if they are accepted or not.As for being 'dictated to', we could say the same of Bible writers who tells us what to believe,such as Paul,James,Peter and John etc. At times there are strong messages there,is that not so? No,we are not dictated to.
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@halman | 9 April 11 |
And other groups professing to be Christian tell their members what doctrine to believe whichever way they go about it, such as the Christadelphians, Seventh Day Adventists etc. So the accusation falls flat,young man. |
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@halman | 9 April 11 |
While Isaiah 43: 10-12 ,''you are my witnesses'' is the utterance of Jehovah, applies to Israel at that time,it also applies to ''the Israel of God'' who are the annointed christians - Galatians 6:16. They are the nation that the kingdom of God is given to as they produce it's fruits,after the Jews failed- Matthew 21:43. They are those whom God takes out of the nations ''a people for his name''- Acts 15:14-18 Amos 9: 11,12. And what is the name by which they have ''called upon them''? Why, JEHOVAH.
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@halman | 9 April 11 |
Jesus was,and is, Jehovah's witness as he is ''the faithful witness'' - Revelation 1:5, and said,''I do nothing of my own initiative,but just as the Father taught me I speak these things''-John 8:28 after also saying ''I am one that bears witness about myself,and the Father bears witness about me.''- verse 18. God says His name,Jehovah,is to be made known to the earth,not just verbally but what it means and stands for. Jehovah's Witness whether annointed or of the earthly destination,do this today.
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@elijah_2 | 9 April 11 |
@ Unquiet1 I don't know where u got ur information about as it relates to Jewellery.
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@elijah_2 | 9 April 11 |
And I can gurantee u that I never saw anyone in my fellowship being told if u don't belive this teaching, then u can't be apart of us, so let me disfellowship u.
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