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@unquiet1 | 27 March 12 | |
Wot do you think? Jesus never taught that humans have an immortal soul. However he often did teach about resurrection of the dead(see luke 14:13,14; John 5:25-29; 11:25). Why would Jesus say that the dead would be resurrected if he believed that their souls hadnt died?? Jesus did not teach that God would maliciously torture the wicked forever. Rather Jesus said: God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but have eternal life (John 3:16, NAB) Why would Jesus say imply that those who did not believe in him would die? If he really meant they would live forever, suffering misery in a fiery hell, would he not have said so? lets have a look at wot lake of fire is |
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@unquiet1 | 27 March 12 | |
Wot Is Lake Of Fire? Revelation 20:10 says the Devil will be cast into ''the lake of fire'' and ''tormented day and night for ever and ever.''(KJV).... BUT! If the Devil were to be tortured for all eternity, God would have to preserve him alive... the Bible says that Jesus will ''destroy him'' (Hebrews 2:14, KJV) That doesnt add up... Only way for that to make sense is if one verse is talking about something happening literally and the other is talking symbolic... Lets have a look at wot else gets thrown into the lake of fire... |
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@unquiet1 | 27 March 12 | |
Cast your eyes to Revelation 20:14 ''And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.'' Do you see that? Death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. Can death and hell[Hades] be literally burned? ''The lake'' mentioned here is symbolic, since death and hell [Hades] that are thrown into it cannot literally be burned! Have a look at Revelation 21:8 also thrown into this symbolic lake are those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderers and fornicators and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars. This lake of fire means the second death its not the same as the death from Adams sin where we can be resurrected, this death is irreversible, death from which there is no hope of coming back to life... completely destroyed forever. This was meant for the Devil and demons. Now some humans who continue to follow him will also be gone forever. |
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@unquiet1 | 27 March 12 | |
In wot sense are those in the fire tormented eternally? At times ''to torment'' can mean ''to restrain'' someone. Once when Jesus was confronted by demons, they cried out: ''Art thou come hither to TORMENT us[restrain us in the abyss] before our time?'' (see Matthew 8:29,KJV) Luke puts it.. ''And they begged him repeatedly not to order them to go into the Abyss.'' Luke 8:31, NIV) So all those in 'the lake' will suffer the 'torment' of everlasting restraint, or 'second death' |
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@ecurb.p | 27 March 12 | |
Praise almighty Jesus Son of God..brother it is well that you like the word of God,but the problem i have with you is that the plane words of God that are only deliverd by the holy spirit to the church(person) who has faith in it, you have gone ahead to put your own research running to greek translations,wat i used to see my former pastors do to complicate a very simple thing, that God freely gives,to those who are willing to receive.yet man introduced theology to help him.my friend those who workd 4 the Lord even in the days of the bible never even went to school to study the word,Jesus himself showd that this was posible,when the pharisees still studied amiss every line of the word.without saing much,bible is plane to the humble and its only God who reveals more of it to such people. I hate theology.will discus the topic later brother..am sory if have gone 2 far.amen
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@unquiet1 | 28 March 12 | |
unlike the pastors and priests i didnt go to study theology at some university but plain home bible helped me see the truth
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